Climate scientists can't agree on how warm it is

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I recently read that the world has crossed 1.5 degrees of warming above the pre-industrial level, the limit set in the Paris agreement. Then I read that we crossed it several years ago. Then some climate scientists objected. Why can’t climate scientists agree on how warm the Earth is? Have we already broken the Paris agreement? I have the summary.

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All Comments (21)
  • @pedrosmith4529
    I need a T-shirt "Climate scientists can't agree on how hot I am."
  • Whenever someone says "i have superior education, therefore you must believe me," I'm immediately skeptical.
  • @albirtarsha5370
    Of course, the Paris threshold is hard to quantify in absolute terms. It is the product of politicians and lawyers.
  • @RFC3514
    Maybe in addition to his three "degrees in Physics", Mr. Mann should pursue a degree in History, to understand that 1970 isn't "the pre-industrial era".
  • @MattAngiono
    "Let's not quibble over the baseline?" Wtf! That's literally the thing that defines the whole concept.
  • @andrewdewit4711
    Mann: “I’ve got 3 degrees and if you don’t agree with me on degrees and antinuclear I’ll block you on Twitter”
  • Brought to you by the same people who told us they were "too big to fail".
  • Whoa, @6:08 she nails it. First time I've ever seen someone on this topic start to dig into the Shannon-Nyquist frequency-limit. For those that aren't mathematicians or data-acquisition experts, the Shannon-Nyquist frequency-limit describes the mathematically proven limit of knowledge that can be extracted from a signal. If you attempt to exceed the Shannon-Nyquist frequency-limit you get start to get garbage for your results. If you are familiar with video-games or textures or reducing image sizes you might have noticed weird waves that can show up in the image, called a Moire pattern. That happens because the algorithm used to reduce the image violated the Shannon-Nyquist frequency-limit.
  • @robinhood4640
    My chainsaw was far too noisy, so i moved silent to the level of my lawnmower. It considerably reduced the noise my chainsaw makes.
  • when you have scientists that are terrible at communicating, and communicators that don't understand science, this is what we get. that is why need more scientists that are also communicators.
  • Temperature goes up. Temperature goes down. So many variables, and the Earth goes round and round.
  • @jeskoumm
    “I live above 40° latitude, winters should be full of snow….There was 0" accumulation on the previous winter— it is too hot, I’m leaving.”
  • My wife and I usually can’t agree on how warm it is when we’re choosing how many blankets to put on the bed at night.
  • @Proud2bmodest
    Trying to measure the average temperature of the earth is like trying to measure it's average color.
  • "This is my chart here. You'll see that i have a red line and a black line. The lines are on a chart. Right here. The lines go across the page. I have numbers too ... ."
  • @msromike123
    Thanks for the mid-morning chuckle. "You can quibble over what the right baseline is, so let's not worry too much about that." Rigorous science being applied to climate change. :_atom:
  • @HHercock
    This video highlights how difficult precise communication is. No only science communication.
  • @timogul
    Basically it's like one of those cones they draw on a map to describe a hurricane. We can't be sure exactly where in that cone the eye of the storm will be, we just know that it will be in there somewhere, and also that pretty much everyone in the cone is screwed anyway.
  • 4:17 "The Paris agreement doesn't specify according to which baseline to calculate the 1.5 degrees". Useful. 5:27 "The Paris agreement doesn't say how the 1.5 degrees of warming are to be calculated." Doubly useful.