Ellen vs Zhu Yuan : Who Offers Better Investment Value in Zenless Zone Zero

Published 2024-06-30

All Comments (21)
  • Zhu Yuan offers better value as you can use her with Nicole = more time of Nicole being onscreen.
  • @N0XEL
    im simply gonna wait until i get my character off of standard banner, if i get lycaon i'll try and get ellen, if i dont i will wait untill near the end of zhu yuan's banner to see whats coming and if i wanna pull her or not, not gonna reroll though.
  • @akaiyoru2681
    Imo Zhu Yuan has a higher F2P value, as was mentioned Nicole is her best support...that also means you can put in Anby as a Stun character. Literally you only need to pull for Zhu Yuan, that's it. If anything it also opens up her W-Engine as an option if you really wanna invest. Ellen can get the Crit value from Frostbite but Nicole gives enemies the Def% debuff which might overall be better
  • @Maxcie
    7:20 the Nike shade is craaaaaazy. checks over stripes! Great video though, very informative.
  • @TheNrat
    This the video I need . Ellen hype video got me more interest in her . But I wanna use Nicole on teams
  • @scyi.3665
    That mono ice team with Ellen, Lycaon and Soukaku is very strong and I can't imagine it falling off soon + Miyabi is unlikely to release soon. On the HSR comparison, Seele actually aged well for a first limited character, she performs well in all three gamemodes and can still 0 cycle MoC. So I agree that the best choice is to go for Ellen Joe right now for smoother progression. Her mobility is great too with Roaming State edit: nvm Miyabi potentially coming in 1.3 it's ellen joever
  • @mugenhikage
    I thought Soukaku was given for free in game for one of the game modes?
  • @Dandy4ask
    11:30 Seele and Venti were both first banners while klee and jing yuan were on the other half, i dont think theres a trend here
  • @Cbb88dragonborn
    Going for Ellen personally and hey if I get her W-Engine that can go right on Miyabi too
  • @H2SO4pyro
    My standard banner first S-agent is Koleda. Right now i'm playing Koleda/Ben/Corin, so i'm looking to replace Corin for a better DPS before i get stuck on lategame stuff. What's the call going forward? Do i pull on any of this patch's banners or do i wait for the next patch?
  • I understand that the feeling is to not rush ellen and have some f2p keep their gems for zhu yuan, but some arguments feel pretty cope, like the second banner characters are supposed to be better ? like jing yuan and klee ? it's more like everyone gets powercreeped in hoyo games I would even argue that with zzz offering more skill expression then a hsr (not saying there's no skill in hsr but it's def more accessible), characters might be viable for longer like in genshin anyway, great video overall
  • @Zerodarkwolf01
    I think I might go with Ellen since I’m also planning on getting Lycaon AKA wolf Sanji to have synergy and ice attacks are heck op from what I’ve seen so far
  • @Helsenberg268
    11:33 "The second banner tends to be good" .... ? In HSR we had Jing Yuan, who wasn't even god at release and in Genshin we had Klee, who was also power-creeped pretty fast In the end it's a hoyo game and it won'T have that high of a ceiling. Just pull the chars you like (aesthetics, gameplay,...)
  • @Joo00393
    Wait you put miyabi on anomali? Means she's confirmed to be anomaly?
  • @idmss2663
    I'm pulling for Zhu Yuan because of PEW PEW PEW
  • @NARUTOnemesis
    It kinda really depends on who my first 5 star is. I want Miyabi, plain and simple. But I wouldn't be surprised if shes around 1.5 or further, maybe into 2.0. So if I get Lycano then I may push for Ellen but if not I'll go for Zhu Yen.
  • I think the usage of words and implications might be misleading. A character falling off and not being at their peak with a new addition replacing them at their element and role doesn't make much of a difference if they still get the job done. I don't see Ellen becoming "not worth the investment" just because she's not in the top 1 spot anymore in 6 months to a year. She'll likely stay relevant for much longer than that, even if she ends up being 30 seconds slower than Miyabi in Shinyu Defense.