Is AGI Just a Fantasy?
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Published 2024-06-15
Nick talks about his journey at Google Brain, working with AI legends like Geoff Hinton, and the amazing things his company, Cohere, is doing. From creating the must useful language models for businesses to making tools for developers, Nick shares a lot of interesting insights. He even talks about his band, Good Kid! Nick said that RAG is one of the best features of Cohere's new Command R* models. We are about to release a deep-dive on RAG with Patrick Lewis from Cohere, keep an eye out for that - he explains why their models are specifically optimised for RAG use cases.
Learn more about Cohere Command R models here:
cohere.com/command
github.com/cohere-ai/cohere-toolkit
Nick's band Good Kid:
goodkidofficial.com/
Nick on Twitter:
x.com/nickfrosst
00:00:00 Intro
00:01:55 Backstory of Cohere
00:02:31 Hinton
00:02:54 Nick's band
00:03:11 How is Cohere differentiated?
00:03:44 Not an AGI company
00:06:00 Command+R
00:06:41 Standout feature: RAG
00:09:07 How is RAG changing the way we build apps?
00:09:44 Build day
00:10:25 Building robust applications
00:11:59 RAG evolution
00:14:45 Unsupervised RAG
00:16:30 Agents and divergence
00:18:27 Agency
00:22:19 Are LLMs general?
00:24:48 Benchmarks
00:27:07 Would Cohere verticalize?
00:27:43 RAG vs long context
00:29:20 Tech hasn't landed yet?
00:31:36 Are LLMs saturating?
00:35:50 Cohere's data acquisition pipeline
00:36:34 SOTA chasing vs fairness
00:37:21 Fall of the data scientist
00:40:37 Final callouts
Disclaimer: This is the first video from our Cohere partnership. We were not told what to say in the interview, and didn't edit anything out from the interview.
All Comments (21)
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This is a serious guy, so refreshing to listen to someone with their head screwed on correctly
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I don't know how they manage to keep bringing these amazing guests episode after episode
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It says something about the current state of things when a company saying “we aren’t building digital gods. We are trying to solve real world problems” is a green flag. Excellent video as always MLST. I’m 10 minutes in and I can see the channel improving with every vid. This deep dive, direct to the source, appropriately skeptical content is needed in this parrot-filled AI hype cacophony.
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Wow.. some sanity, humility and thoughtfulness brought to the AI debate... I applaud!
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The most coherent and down to earth LLM discussion I've heard in a while!
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Great interview, but it's surreal hearing the lead singer from Good Kid talking about his company's ML products. A Renaissance man. For anybody curious about the band, check out "good kid no time to explain".
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That opening sentence is so refreshing to hear 👏
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The face of Nick everytime Tim tries to bring him in the AGI, intelligence, sentience, agency... BS debate... And then him lecturing Tim on how LLMs really work. PRICELESS!
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AGI certainly exists. It is a method for raising absurd amounts of Venture Capital based on the fear of being left behind.😉
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The question I wished you had asked is this: “In what fundamental ways does your thinking about LLMs, AI and AGI differ from Hinton’s?”.
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im really glad i found this channel, awesome work you're doing!
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What a great interview. Nick Frosst seems to have a real good understanding of the current state of AI and a refreshingly open view of the landscape.
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this is such a high quality and immensely well timed channel. the interviews are really right on with the SOTI (state of the industry) just made that up by the way. enjoy.
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This is the least fake-hype AI lab head I've seen, it is so refreshing! Everyone else is yelling their heads off about tech that we might have in a decade rather than focusing on what we do have. Don't get me wrong, the quest for AGI is nobel and important, but holy hell, there is work to be done in the here and now too.
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Very happy to see such a pragmatic, focused and grounded view of Large Language Models. Both that it is represented in the people building such systems today - and that it gets surfaced here on MLST. The philosophical discussions that we often have, are super interesting and worthwhile - but we must not entirely forget where we actually stand with today's technology. And most importantly, not fool ourselves in thinking that we are much further along than we really are. Or be fooled by organizations pretending that they are, in order to push their own agenda (possibly to our detriment as citizens...).
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How Interesting the interview is! Thanks!
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Cohere downplays AGI because that isn't their business model. It doesn't mean they have any idea how far away or how close AGI actually is.
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So much going on I keep forgetting how good this channel is and forget to watch!
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Some people are building AGI and they are not naive. Scaling LLMs might do something or not. Or they might just be powerful tools for building something else.
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Brilliant video as always, hugely underrated channel.