that moment you realize tarantino only co-wrote pulp fiction
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Published 2023-02-04
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This is the story of how Pulp Fiction was written... not just by Quentin Tarantino, but also by Tarantino's Oscar-winning co-writer and best friend Roger Avary, leading to the eventual downfall of their collaborations together.
Written & Edited by Danny Boyd
All Comments (21)
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Here’s the link to the second part of the video: https://youtu.be/X86wpEcBtKo Like what happened with my Rocky video recently, for some reason when I tried to upload the full thing, it gets automatically copyright claimed. But when I broke it into two parts, it was fine. It’s very strange. And again, I wouldn’t care, except that with the claim on it I’m unable to turn off mid-roll ads. And I really prefer not to have ad breaks in the middle of my videos, because I work really hard to make them the way they are, and for them to be enjoyed in a certain way. At least by breaking it up myself, I get to choose where that break happens, which is why I’ve chosen to do it this way again. But, really, I am sorry about all this, and I hope you’re able to enjoy the full video despite the split :) -Danny
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Just searched up who Roger Avary was and was completely blindsided by the 'manslaughter charge' part in his Wikipedia page
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You can actually track the arc of Tarantino's ego as a filmmaker & the credit for Pulp fiction when you watch he's interviews on a year by year chronology, first makes passing mentions of him... Then Jackie Brown onwards Avery's never mentioned, all the way to the press tour for Once Upon a Time in Hollywood (now back together with him and doing a podcast together) he makes passing mentions of him again
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The other massive factor in the success of Tarantino’s films is the contribution of his long time Editor Sally Menke. Editing is a re-writing of the film based on whatever was shot and recorded and the editor curates the pacing and audience experience down to the frame. You can see the huge influence she had by looking at his films up until the time of her death in 2010 and then after. I remember watching the Hateful 8 and thinking WTF is this? It was sluggish and self-indulgent. RIP Sally Menke
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Nice seeing Avary getting some attention. He was a solid writer-director in his own right. Rules of Attraction is an underrated film that really captures the zeitgeist of US college culture in the early 2000’s.
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God I love the way you narrate. Taking audio from the movie and making it sound like a conversation is so unique! It's like you and the person are bouncing off each other
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People used to talk about “the mega script” that they both used to work on that supposedly got turned into reservoir dogs, true romance, natural born killers, pulp fiction, and supposedly even some parts of it inspired killing Zoe and from dusk til dawn. I never hear about it any more but it used to get mentioned in interviews a lot more. I guess here it’s the throw away line about “putting everything on the table that hadn’t been used” but it used to be suggested that they both collectively added to it tremendously like all the time and added to it over years rather than days or weeks and have gone back to the well of that document on many many occasions to mine the signature style of their early work together. They are both architects of that style. I feel more people should look into Avery’s other work. He’s not the work horse that QT is or the lightning rod, but he has just as much vision and taste.
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People don't really talk about how much Jim Jarmusch's Night On Earth and Mystery Train influenced Pulp Fiction, Resevoir Dogs and True Romance. For a start, Mystery Train has the multi-story plot, a radio DJ narrator (in fact, Tarantino considered casting Tom Waits as the DJ in Reservoir Dogs before casting Steven Wright), a cameo by the ghost of Elvis Presley, and a cowardly Steve Buscemi character. While Night On Earth features a mysterious briefcase and a sinister character with a band-aid on the back of his head. I wonder how Jarmush feels about it all.
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I love the editing of this. very stylish and perfectly paced. it gives me such Radiolab energy, but beautifully done for the screen. barely even into the video right now, but i just needed to come down here and say bravo on the edit.
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damn.. thank you for bringing awareness to this, had zero clue.. never clicked on a video faster
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Roger Avery also wrote the Silent Hill movie, which is arguably one of the better game adaptations.
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This is great! I’d also love to see an in depth breakdown of Sally Menke’s contribution to Tarantino’s films. She was certainly a one of kind visionary editor.
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1:12 "we don't really hear much from today" Roger Avary & Quentin Tarantino literally have a podcast together right now since last year - The Video Archives Podcast The first episode premiered on July 19, 2022 and Roger Avary worked on other movies since pulp fiction like: Mr. Stitch (1995) - Director, writer and Executive Producer The Rules of Attraction (2002) - Director, writer and Executive Producer Glitterati (2004) - Director, Writer & Producer Silent Hill (2006) - writer Beowulf (2007) - writer & Executive Producer XIII: The Series - Writer & Executive Producer Lucky Day (2019) - Director & writer and on On January 13, 2008 - September 29, 2009, he was in legal issues for dui and manslaughter. in my personal opinion i think he slowed down bcuz he had nothing to prove i don't think it had anything to do with Quentin Tarantino although over the years Tarantino does come across someone that's hard to work with bcuz of his ego.
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So, Tarantino pretty much Zuckerberged him?.. (I’m haven’t watched the second part of the video yet, but going to right now)
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Another interesting thing to note is that Tarantino tried to recreate the anothlogy format with the movie "Four Rooms" in 1995. 4 directors would direct 4 sperate parts of a film that would ultimately tie together in the end. The movie turned out to be a massive flop and tarantino did not do another aothology formated film.
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never been that much into movies in the sense of analysing colours, scenography, planes etc, but this channel really is something else even for me. Good work, keep it up
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I love the kinetic energy in your editing and narration. What a great video essay fr
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What an amazing video. Great insights combined with great editing. Thank you so much, CinemaStix. :)
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I thought I had a mandala effect with Roger Avary this whole time since Quentin pulled a Stan Lee.
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It's good to see an essay that doesn't need to be 2 hour to be fricking good, this is the videos we need.