Epic Phoenix Token Breakdown | Which ships are worth it? | Star Trek Online

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Published 2022-09-26
In this video I'll be going through each of the ships available in the Epic Phoenix Store and talking about the value each offers.

STO Wiki Hub for Epic Token Options: sto.fandom.com/wiki/Phoenix_Redemption_Store#Epic

Phoenix Drop Rate: old.reddit.com/r/sto/comments/uj2lgg/new_drop_rate…

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Chapters:
00:00 Epic Token Basics
07:31 Vulcan T'Pau Scout Ship
12:38 Denorious-Class Bajoran Interceptor (Domino)
17:28 Breen Plesh Tral Heavy Raider (Cold-Hearted)
21:58 Vorgon Ryn'kodan Carrier
24:55 Vorgon Xyfius Heavy Escort
27:43 Vorgon Ytijara Dreadnought Cruiser
31:17 Breen Rezreth Dreadnought Cruiser
33:47 Breen Sarr Thein Carrier
36:45 Breen Chel Boalg Warship
40:03 Kobali Samsar Cruiser (RIF)
42:48 Lukari Ho'kunn Science Vessel (PFP)
47:10 Ferengi Nandi Warship
50:40 Best DPS Options
57:06 Krenim Science Vessel
59:10 Recap - Best Options


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All Comments (21)
  • @CasualSAB
    Had some requests to get this tossed together and did it as a live take earlier. Didn't expect it to be this long, but chapters are enabled if you want to skip to specific parts. Hope this helps any of you who were debating on what to get with your Epic tokens!
  • @berlindude75
    Important thing to note when using the Cold-Hearted starship trait: Affected targets count as being "Controlled", hence additionally slotting the reputation space trait Controlled Countermeasures (from the Temporal Defense Initiative reputation) will net you an extra "+7.5% / +9.4% Bonus Energy Weapon and Projectile Damage against Controlled targets." (Ranks 1 / 2)
  • The one thing that bugs me about STO is account unlocks vs character unlocks. I have a token but will most likely never use it. I have one lockbox ship and one lobi ship from the two years of events. Again will most likely never use them. This year I just took the two T6 tokens as they would be account unlocked ships when I use them. For how rare golden tokens are and how weak some of the ships are. There is no reason to have them as 1 character only ships. Just hate the way players are punished just because they weren't playing the game at a certain stage.
  • Just got an Epic today. Came here right away to get the input. Thanks!
  • @Fosgate777
    Amazing Video! I could've used this when I first started. Helpful to learn not only how the Phenoix boxes work and what all the stuff is in them, but also how this game works. Thanks Spencer ! ! ! !
  • @oldkronosx276
    Great Vid! Now i know better what to pick for my Epic Token thanks to you!
  • @martinarg1979
    Excellent review and i watch it the entire video...knowledge is power so knowing things about the game is always useful and time is ok...i spend a lot of hours playing 😁👍🏻
  • @dave_n8pu
    I managed to get one of those Denorious-class Bajoran Interceptor's and I'm sure I don't have it set up like you suggested, but for it's small size on the screen, I'm quite pleased with how well it can do in battle (normal). I'm sure it would do a lot better if a DPS player set it up as a meta ship, but I'm not one of those people, but it's good enough for the average player like me, so that I'm not sitting there just waiting for whatever I'm doing to finish.
  • @Goonie3353
    Thank's for another great video, since I've been playing this game (2016 :D) i was able to win only 3 of those and I've only useed one for wrong ship :D. As per ships available via this token I remember that at least Bajoran Interceptor, Hokuun and Samsar unlocks also an unique warp core (if this feature is not disabled after recent modifications to phoenix boxes). The first two of the warp cores weren't that great but as if I recall corectly the one from Samsar together with other parts of the set, was great for tanking - 4 parts of the set gives exceptional regeneration of hull for player and allies but I'm not sure if it is still the thing. T6 token itself, (in my opinion) starts to look as another obsolette part of the game, except the consoles and traits you mentioned at he end of video. Maybe in the future if there will be added some interesting rewards this will be worth something but nowdays Mudd's market, legendary packs and even T6 coupon's beat this.
  • @markrunk9171
    The Breen Sarr Thein has been one of my main ships paired with the Plesh Tral Heavy Raider it then has 4 frigates as combat pets. All four consoles from all 4 Breen ships. Traits electrified anomalies and spore work great using the eng/intel I then have 8 Science and 1/1 intel/Eng batteries for Cold Hearted and anomalies to work over large groups of enemies.
  • After watching this and Trizander's video I think I should buy a lottery ticket. I've gotten WAY BETTER drop rates myself. I'm definitely buying a lottery ticket.
  • @beauneo
    Great video. I’m one of those guys who refines dil to buy Phoenix upgrades weekly. Finally hit an epic token just yesterday. Can’t decide if I want the console from the bajoran ship or the trait from the breen ship.
  • @EmperorRyu1
    The Vorgon Ryn'Kodan might not have a lot of damage potential in terms of its natural layout. But I think with enough playing around (Tyler's Duality on its 1.625 Hull Modifier, using the Engineering Console slots for Universals that boost damage significantly) It could be excellent.
  • @falsfire
    Curious note about the Vesta consoles: Although you can equip them on any ship now, the 2-piece set of the tier 5 consoles, which sector speed builds may use for the turn-on-a-dime slipstream, does not appear to work when used on non-vesta ships. So you can't put that on a miracle worker ship, which is slightly faster than a vesta, with the longer duration slipsteam, and still turn on a dime...
  • @3100620842
    The vorgon carrier in the thumbnail is absolutely gorgeous
  • Thank you for this video, I had been wondering if any of the ships I don't have were worth it and now I know that for me I really do have three totally uneeded epic tokens. Annoying but also good to know. It seems I was either really on it when it came to choosing events or was just super lucky with when I was playing as I have the Bajoran inty the Plesh Tral and the lukari dorito account wide but none of the others (iirc). Of these I used to use the Doritos aoe heal thingy alot as its a do not explode button that rarely fails and I might even add it back in to some builds as I had sort of assumed it wasn't as good as it is now. I rarely use cold hearted as I'm not really that meta in my play and don't always have aux to bat but I now get why its in things like the DPS league build pages so might give it another look. Domino console is on I think every build I have and is the very first console I claim on a new char, Having it account wide for free is huge and its a shame that these tokens are one time as its just a huge grind for all newer players that want one considering this is now only availble via gambling mechanics. Honestly despite my thousands of hours and 13 years of on off play if the game was shut down tomorrow for being a gambling game attractive to kids or something I would totally be like yeah thats fair saw that coming years ago and it fully deserves it for being so blattent a gambling sim. If STO ends for any reason other than horrific legacy code that just breaks I'm sure it will legal problems to do with gambling, so off topic. I used 1 token to get the Breen Chel Boalg as I like the design and am a DS9 fan and would say its a nice ship that flys well and despite being so not a meta capable build is still a powerful ship overall. I even built it wrong with dual beams of random types (best in slot or close to but not matching types) and if you only want to play advanced tfos/events its actually good enough to do quite well. If you only have 1 token don't buy this unless you have the exact same list of unlocked ships I do but if you have a spare token and like the breen look then this is a great ship. There needs to be a NOT gambling way to unlock some of the older things like these ships account wide or at least cheaply as this game is coming to its end of life soon. I mean its 13+ years old and games do not last forever, I am supprised that the Star Trek IP hasn't allready made moves to replace the game as the flagship trek game but I guess it speaks volumes of the mis management of the brand since well the turn of the 21st century frankly.
  • @HugoBolzer
    22:10 Vorgon Ryn'kodan Carrier - FUN FACT ... when it came out it had the most base hull of all ships in the game i really like this ship , not because of DPS, because its a different way of fighting the Carrier Pets lay sooo many fricking mines ... recommendation: get yourself the epic versions yes - it is slow and you really really need the Trait: "Hot Pursuit" (+100% mine range) and the 3of3 Vorgon Console set also helps with flight speed of the mines + the Cold Hearted Trait to slow your opponent down embrace a Healing loadout and you and your pets kill stuff on "ELITE Difficulty" soooo satisfying when ALL these mines crash into your opponent 😀 i even had success in PvP with that, > i just didn´t die , and the pet damage destroyed every opponent until my good friend the master PvP player came around died twice modified himself and killed me every time just with the help of a single Console: Aceton Assimilator >> the pets killed themself including all the mines but still, it was alot of fu
  • @muga1701
    I got 2 epic prize packs in my time in STO. First time, not knowing what I had, I used it up as any other. Recently opened 70 phoenix packs and got another epic prize, so now Im going to use it wisely.
  • @falsfire
    Just started watching this, and it sounds like it will be helpful. PS. Over all the years of the phoenix pack, I've probably opened somewhere between 20,000 - 30,000 of them, as I have many, many alts, and many, many builds on several of my toons, so I go through an absurd amount of upgrades. I have won approximately 25 or so epics out of that number, but that's still only about 0.2%. I've already claimed the Bajoran Interceptor on three of my toons, because DOMINO, and I know that from a power perspective, that's always the obvious choice for those of us who missed the event. I've also claimed a Samsar on my tank toon, just to be able to play with the full Kobali set and console (not worth it!). And one toon put together all the Breen ships so I can do Breen/Dominion themed builds for funsies. I've also claimed a few Krenim Science ships to complete both the flagship console set and the chronometric polaron sets, and my main grabbed the breen raider back when cold-hearted was still a good DPS trait. But this video should be pretty helpful to choose what I want to grab on the epic I pulled from today's free phoenix box (LOL!)
  • @lino222
    i became part of the 0.11%, and got to thank you for the vid, just what i needed to help me pick the ship, or should i say, the console.