How To FACE & HEAL The TRAUMA That Dictates Your Life: Paul Conti, MD | Rich Roll Podcast

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Dr. Paul Conti is a Stanford & Harvard trained psychiatrist and expert in treating trauma, personality disorders, and psychiatric illnesses. He is also the author of 'Trauma: The Invisible Epidemic'. Today's conversation is a masterclass on all things trauma—how to understand it, heal it, and prevent it. To read more & peruse the full show notes👉🏾bit.ly/richroll705
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00:00:00 - Intro
00:02:34 - Defining Trauma
00:05:41 - Paul Talks About His Past Trauma Experience
00:07:22 - Gaining Self-Realization
00:09:13 - Fear, Shame & Guilt All Too Often Prevent Us From Seeking Help
00:11:44 - Why Have We Formed Maladaptive Behaviors with Trauma?
00:15:48 - Exploring Deeper into Guilt and Shame
00:25:30 - Ad Break
00:27:22 - Taking a Boarder Look at How Trauma Can Manifest
00:34:55 - Looping a Desire to Rewrite the Past
00:37:13 - Getting Out of a Negative Mindset Loop
00:39:07 - The downstream impact of chronic trauma - Rich's Upbringing
00:47:40 - Getting into a safe mindset to tackle fear and shame surrounding trauma
01:00:00 - PTSD / other ways trauma can present itself in life
01:02:29 - Trauma induced sleep impingements
01:06:30 - Repetition Compulsion Behaviors
01:11:21 - Why do some people perpetrate their own abuse and trauma?
01:15:44 - Weaknesses with the Medical System for Treating Trauma/PTSD
01:25:09 - Medical professional ‘Burnouts’
01:26:59 - What’s the path forward to repairing our healthcare system?
01:32:35 - How do we ‘get better’?
01:37:22 - Variety of therapeutic approaches and modalities available
01:44:19 - Thoughts on pharmaceutical interventions
01:47:41 - Thoughts on psychedelics
01:50:37 - Final Thoughts

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All Comments (21)
  • @hubermanlab
    An incredible episode that can be categorized as truly important. Thank you Dr Conti and Rich Roll for taking the time to record this amazing conversation!
  • @SkyRiverhawk
    Trauma clouded every moment of my life- it still does some days. Being the product of partner rape by an abusive husband, left alone for 3 days as an infant in a remote cabin in the NWT of Canada, having a gun pulled on me as a child, family suicides from various mental illness, abuse, neglect, rape by age 8, frightened and alone, sleeping with a knife or baseball bat bc your mother's boyfriends climb through your window, etc etc. Yet, I survived and keep relentlessly, examining my life, motivations. Podcast such as this, books, great community based resources and compassionate friends go a long way to heal and break any destructive patterning. Thank you for this episode, Rich.
  • @kateross8609
    My husband shockingly died of suicide earlier this year. This interview was incredibly insightful and such a balm for my soul. I felt glimmers of hope that there is the possibility of finding a meaningful, fulfilling life for my children and I again. Thank you both so much. I'm very very grateful 🙏
  • Am I the only person who avoided watching this for weeks, had their mind blown, wrote a really long comment and then deleted it? Baby steps, baby steps ... INCREDIBLE episode, Rich! You and your incredible guests like Dr. Conti are helping so many people!
  • @cbeaucrawford
    For me meditation, mantras, forgiveness (including self), acceptance and gratitude, as well as slowing down my life by moving away from the city, made the biggest differences in healing the trauma. I survived a three year period of great loss (lost my partner of 20 years and both parents to cancer, then my business, followed by my wealth, home and a slew of fair-weather friends... All the foundations of past stability were gone. I have had to rediscover who I am and what my purpose is, minute by minute trying to stay present.
  • @Laysea89
    This has been extremely helpful. I was in a car accident 21 years ago; my vehicle was struck by a train and my passenger died. The guilt and shame that I’ve struggled with for two decades..man. Thank you for giving me some knowledge to help me today❤️
  • @jamesbow5916
    What a beautiful conversation. I just wish that more people would understand that they have been through trauma, and it shows up in the lives every single day. In the choices they make. In their response to stress. In the choices they decide NOT to make. Trauma is having a parent who doesn't understand their own emotional lives. Trauma is having a parent who talked you out of your feelings. Trauma is who tells you that you are "too much" or "lazy" or any other kind of shaming language. That little "T" trauma will be in control of every important decision you make in life.
  • I have been working in the addiction space for decades and I am convinced that trauma is the root cause. Thank you for such a beautiful and masterful conversation.
  • So impressed by the compassion and deep level of caring by yourself and this guest.
  • Dr Conti is so articulate, not a wasted word. Thank you both Rich and Paul for this important discussion, all very true, needed, and profound.
  • @brookie_cuqui
    We aren't bad if bad things happen to us. Addressing our emotional needs is the basis for everything else. No one makes it without someone to care for us till we can learn to care for ourselves as well. Thank you, you two, for being brave, loving examples of the true power of men and people. 💕
  • This is such an amazing conversation from start to finish. My heart is full kmowing that there are people who dedicate their lives to help people heal. I have CPTSD, had an extremely abusive childhood, proceeded to get into abusive relationships, lost my son to an overdose 2 years ago, battle alcoholism myself and have been overloaded by layers and layers of trauma. I just started AA 12 step program and its the first time I have hope and peace and also in therapy. I will be a success story, I won't give up. Thank you both so much. I was glued to the entire 2 hours.
  • @willd.8040
    Wow, Rich’s story is almost just like mine. My mom lost her father when she was 17, and they had immigrated from Cuba just two years before. Not until recently (I’m 45) did I realize that it was that event, that caused her to be afraid of everything, and caused her to become so controlling and overprotective with me. She never got help and it affected her moods, and the way she saw the world. It has had a profoundly negative effect on me, with anxiety and depression since I was maybe 8-9 years old. I remember seeing her crying all the time when I was little, and it made me feel so bad. I wish I had pushed her to see a therapist when I was younger, but I didn’t even know why she was how she was. I’m just now starting to face the world and try to think more positively, but it’s really hard to change when this is so deeply engrained in who I am. It’s so sad that her problems made me into such a scared and insecure person, when I am intelligent and a caring person. I’ve been misunderstood my whole life, which has just made it all worse. I need to find a therapist.
  • Rich Roll was the beginning of hope for me, after the effects, physically, emotionally, and psychologically from a suicide attempt. The episodes was a source of strength, encouragement, acceptance, and love. I one of my hopes in life is to look him in the eye, give an embracing hug where he feels the power of love. No words need to be spoken between us !!!!!
  • I just relapsed in my alcoholism. I’ve been listening to several of these podcasts today. Very helpful. My takeaway is I’ll be going to AA mtg this afternoon. Felt I was above AA. I grew up w so much shame. The mtgs I have gone to have been so helpful. I’m done trying to figure out why I don’t keep going when it helps me so much. I m pretty sure this will mean I can never drink again. I’m giving up. Today I’m going
  • @valtracey6180
    The timing of this interview is perfect, following on from your interview with Gabor Mate last week on the subject of trauma and how it seeps into our culture when we fail to acknowledge or recognize the wounds it leaves in its trail - if we don’t process it in a healthy way. The underlying message is the same and this conversation re-enforces the lessons I learned from you in conversation with Gabor last week, and also with a different perspective in this conversation, some new lessons. But all with the same goal and the same aspirations - collective healing for our world. This is a wealth of good insights shared for the benefit of all.
  • @roseblues
    My ex husband committed suicide, then a few years later my sister committed suicide. Then my domestic partner was physically assaulting me to the point I had 2 concussions. I haven't even been able to get through this entire discussion but I am trying.
  • Knowledge, compassion, attentiveness, wisdom are at the core of this episode. Thank you for having Dr. Conti on the podcast!
  • @sarahthomson8183
    This guy is wonderful and brilliant. He speaks about it all this so well, yet does not lose his humanity/compassion in the process. Thank you, Rich. :thanksdoc:
  • Great video, I was in a beautiful marriage before my now ex wife left me, i still love her and most times i cant stop thinking about her, i am doing my very best to get rid of the thought of her, but i just cant, i love her so much, i dont know why i am bring this here for, i cant stop thinking about her