He Lived Racism As A Boy & As A Man. You Won't Forget His Story

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Published 2020-06-17
As my subscribers know, I have done thousands of interviews in my life. This interview with journalist, civil rights advocate, lawyer Roger Wilkins was one that I never forgot. I asked him to be straight and honest with me and to speak to his grandchildren in the future, of his experiences. That is exactly what he did, with such intensity and clarity. He describes living in the South, Jim Crow laws and behaviors, in ways that are visceral. You can see it in his face and feel it in his words.

There are some commentators on this video who feel that it is time to forget the past and move to the present and that reliving the past continues to heighten resentments that are no longer relevant. I understand that point of view but I believe that it is dangerous to forget our history.

Roger Wilkins was a prominent civil rights leader, journalist and professor of history and American culture at George Mason University. He was a key player in the civil rights movement and worked as an assistant attorney general during the Johnson administration, where he was instrumental in implementing the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965.

Wilkins was also a respected journalist and won a Pulitzer Prize for National Reporting in 1972 for his coverage of the Watergate scandal as a Washington Post reporter. He later served as the editorial page editor for the New York Times and wrote numerous articles and books on race, politics, and history.

Wilkins had a complicated relationship with President John Kennedy. While he respected Kennedy's commitment to civil rights he was critical of what he saw as the president's inaction on the issue.

In his memoir, "A Man's Life: An Autobiography," Wilkins wrote that he was disappointed with Kennedy's slow response to the civil rights movement, particularly during the Freedom Rides and the Birmingham campaign. He believed that Kennedy was too cautious and hesitant to take bold action on civil rights, and that his administration was more concerned with maintaining political power than advancing the cause of racial equality.

Wilkins also criticized Kennedy's handling of the Bay of Pigs invasion and the Cuban Missile Crisis, arguing that the president's aggressive foreign policy decisions were driven by a desire to prove his toughness rather than a commitment to national security.

Despite his criticisms of Kennedy, Wilkins ultimately recognized the president's important contributions to the civil rights movement, particularly in his support of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965.

The experience that Roger is describing is part of our history. Part of the history of America. And it is also true as some commentators have said, that this is not the only relevant history, this negative, painful, somewhat horrible history. There are also beautiful moments in the history of America at this time and with people of all colors and ethnicities. I know because I have interviewed people who have lived some of it.

For example, I have an interview with a black American, Robert Woodson, who grew up in Philadelphia in a totally black environment which was just wonderful. And I have an interview with a gentleman from California who grew up at the same time in an integrated community where color of skin was not a major factor. All of this is a part of our history and it is complex and three-dimensional and in my view, needs to be recorded and remembered and considered when looking at the present and the future.

During this challenging time I thought that I would present Roger's comments again. I always felt that every student (at any age) should hear Roger to better understand what was experienced by so many Americans during slavery, in the 1940s, the 1950s, the 1960s, and, to some extent, today. I want to take the time in this description to thank Roger Wilkins for the effort and energy he put into his responses to my questions.

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All Comments (21)
  • @always_serpico
    When you sit down and let people tell their stories, you realize it’s not hatred that a lot of black people feel. It’s hurt and betrayal.
  • I was a newspaper delivery boy, in Philadelphia, in the early 60's and delivered to a black neighborhood. I got to know my customers very well and was treated like a 12 year old boy should be treated...with respect and guidance! Till this day, I am proud of the way I was brought up in my white Irish family and was taught to look upon all human beings as equal and to be respectful! We are all the same. We are put here without choice and will answer to God how we treated his creations! Be kind!
  • @karencase6067
    I grew up in a country town in Pennsylvania. I was taught to fear black people. My father was extremely racist. I was in 10th grade and sat behind a guy that was black. I noticed no one spoke to him. He didn't seem scary and I felt ignorant and ashamed because I had never spoken to him either. I finally tapped him on the shoulder and asked if he had a pencil I could borrow. I had to chase him down to try to give it back. I continued to speak to him and we became friends. I would seek him out at the school dances and have to talk him into dancing with me though it would be away from the dance floor. Two years later a boy I had known since kindergarten warned me (people are talking) ! I am proud I did not care what anyone thought and we remained friends. Wherever he is I hope he is doing well 💕 My friend Arthur (Art) proved he was just like anyone else and opened my eyes and my heart! That was 1972
  • @cameronf.4119
    “The worst thing you can do to a human being is make her or him feel like he doesn’t count” beautifully said.
  • @CadillacBoi07
    When he said, “we had a profound faith in the “decency of white Americans” that when they saw the effects of racism things would change and change quickly across the nation. I no longer have that faith.” That was too real.
  • @dianesilva1078
    I could still see his hurt, after all his accomplishments in life.
  • @robdobson5056
    I’m sad for Roger that he died with such pain in his heart. He seemed like a good guy who just wanted to provide for his family with dignity. RIP
  • @relacionar111
    I am black and I would never ever would live in a country like america in those times. Black people then were so brave.
  • @markmark2080
    I wish every "American" would seriously watch and listen to this video.
  • @bspierce81
    "The worst thing you can do to another human being is make them feel they don't count" those were POWERFUL words
  • @Yepsuredid
    My dad tells a story sometimes of when he was a street cop in B-more. One of the only black cops in his precinct. It was the 80s and he chased down a runaway suspect and caught him. The guy gave up and didn’t resist arrest. When a white cop came by in a paddy wagon, he goes up to the suspect and kicks him in the face. My dad stepped in and defended the suspect. My dad was never treated right by his fellow cops because he stood up for his fellow man. Now he works in internal affairs.
  • I am so sorry that this beautiful mind had to die of dementia. That is really cruel. I'm glad you preserved his story and his legacy.
  • @ltskndlatino1
    This is Professor Roger Wilkins, one of my favorite freshman and then senior year college professors. You taught me invaluable lessons that I continue to apply to my life today. Thank you for changing my life. RIP Prof Wilkins.
  • @slushyslimshady
    "The worst thing you can do to a human being is to make them believe they don't count"
  • @mamba00
    This man recalling his story admitting to how we "believed" things would change.....only to fast forward all of these years later and see NO changes still really speaks volumes to the elephant that has been in the room for over 400 years!
  • I am Caucasian, and grew up in a small Midwest town. I remember the racism, and could never understand how people could be so ignorant and cruel, simply because the color of ones skin. Thank God I was able to move away from that hatred and ignorance.
  • @MrPhil360
    Why is history not a focus in highschool. More and more I'm realizing I learned next to nothing in those classes. The majority of what I've learned about history is from interviews and lectures here online.
  • @a.w.3452
    "We had to believe in America more than other people did, in order to have any hope, in order to live, in order to not go crazy.." this... is amazing 👏
  • To know that this amazing, intelligent,eloquent, articulate human being died of dementia is absolutely tragic.
  • He was one of the greatest treasure's that I have seen in my lifetime. RIP Mr Wilkins