The Bronze Age Destruction That Wasn't - Interview with Dr. Jesse Millek

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Published 2023-12-18
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This is a follow up to our overview of the Bronze Age Collapse:    • WTF Happened in the Bronze Age Collap...   In this interview with Dr. Jesse Millek we take a closer look at the claims of destruction which have long been used to back the idea of a cataclysmic Bronze Age Collapse. However Jesse (and others) have found that the claimed levels of destruction were not as severe as initially thought and a more gradual tradition during this period may be more likely.

--About Dr. Jesse Millek--
Visiting Researcher at the Dutch Institute for the Near East (NINO)
"I’ve been working on the Bronze Age collapse for the last ten years with a focus on trade and destruction"
Where to find Jesse's research: leidenuni.academia.edu/JesseMillek
Book sample: www.academia.edu/96085290/Millek_J_M_2023_Destruct…
Book appendix with destruction overview: www.academia.edu/98884300/Late_Bronze_Age_Collapse…
Book on LBA trade which is free to download: www.academia.edu/41867831/Millek_J_M_2019_Exchange…

Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
05:05 Roadmap
05:54 Jesse's Book
07:46 Greece
13:52 Issues with Sources
17:50 Levels of Destruction
19:11 Anatolia
29:52 Ugarit
38:03 Disruption of the Tin Trade
41:53 Cyprus
48:22 Levant
52:32 Recap of False Destructions
57:15 Challenges to Dr. Jesse Millek
1:03:50 Questions - Nature of Collapse
1:08:02 Questions - Destruction, Trade, Migrations
1:10:09 Questions - Climate Change
1:13:04 Questions - Collapse Beyond the E. Med
1:15:10 Outro

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#bronzeage

All Comments (21)
  • @MaximusDeMac
    This channel is putting in amazing work in this topic. Similar to the Spartan Myth video which I am a huge fan of, overall amazing work
  • @GregMcNeish
    This was absolutely terrific. This is the kind of work YouTube history should be doing, connecting us with real experts and giving them a platform to teach leading edge concepts. Don't get me wrong, I love being told a story to get me interested in a topic, but once I'm interested I need this next phase to introduce me to the deep dive. Looking forward to more videos like your Bronze Age "Collapse" presentation, and interviews like this.
  • @markz8665
    I really appreciate these kinds of videos. As lay people, we're not really in a position to judge which side is more right, but it at least exposes us to the opinions in academia, which is especially needed when the other side has been so vocal about their position
  • @jonny-b4954
    You've always got to consider too, that some things that may seem pretty obvious to us, from our perspective. May actually be totally off base. We can't truly put ourselves in their shoes, or truly consider ALL the possibilities when looking at some random evidence.
  • This channel is turning into my favorite, by its attention to academic history, not that everything needs to be delving into sources or histography(cant spell), but atm this attention to detail and being self critical is very unique on yt-history. I cant thank you enough, because history that is inaccurate is so damaging to the overall lessons learned that we need for the future as humans, and you are actually a force for the better by your amazing videos
  • @dimitriradoux
    I love these kind of in depth discussions, and I would love to see more of these from your channel. Great work!
  • "no dip in amount of tin" lower tin availability will not be visible when analyzing objects since they had to use precise recipes, and would have made fewer bronze objects instead of lowering the amount of tin in each
  • I always found it interesting that scholars always took “sea peoples” to mean that they must have come from far off or been completely foreign peoples. Why couldn’t it simply mean people who make their living from the sea or a local naval power. Similar to how the Phoenicians who would later become Carthaginians were viewed as “sea peoples” since so much of their culture and society was built around the sea. Another similarity is that the Carthaginians used primarily mercenary armies with soldiers who came from all over the known world. An ancient empire with trade posts throughout the Mediterranean could easily have called up forces from many different places to go to war with a neighbor like Egypt without there being a need for a mysterious foreign empire that nobody had ever run into before the end of the Bronze Age. Since only scattered documents have come down to us the description by the Egyptians could have been talking about a neighboring power with a brief summary of how that neighboring power had formed over the previous decades prior to the current war. They didn’t necessarily have to have only just then chosen to join together for the purpose of invading Egypt.
  • @Scipi0Africanus
    This was great work Invicta, thanks for putting this video together. Just bought Millek's book, can't wait for it to arrive and give it a read!
  • @FW-jq1ox
    I’ve often been disappointed that so many history textbooks and online content fail to illustrate historical events in such detail as this video did. However, history classes would have to be much longer and I honestly don’t think many students would pay attention anyway. For those of us that really cherish a love of learning from well researched content by historians that are not afraid to admit they don’t know something, I say well done!
  • @bradmyst1339
    I’m just started the video. I am very excited for this topic and very happy for how much you are diving into it with your several videos/shorts Dr. Millken: thank you for your expertise. I’m excited to hear about your studies after 10 years of research. One side thing, I would encourage a different background because this one is too bright for the light you have on yourself. It makes you look more fake than the background. I apologize for this critique.
  • @MelodicMethod
    this was a great follow up to your already amazing Bronze Age Collapse video
  • @brandonlee934
    I like how you do interviews with archaeologists and historians.
  • @williamheard8496
    Oakley you have come so far from those total war videos. Still watching… I’ll always remember winning one of those (Massive Battles) 😉
  • @tangodroid
    Wow, great interview, hope to see more on this format
  • @felixheitzer2262
    Very cool video, thanks for this more in depth look apon this topic.
  • Really appreciate the attention to detail and the tracking back of less than stellar assumptions that maybe subtle or not. FUN!
  • @Orion9856
    Great content, loving this format!
  • @nath-hh2ff
    Such a fascinating period. More and more I find myself reading about the bronze age. Also, can't get enough of achaemenid persia...