How a player stole the powers of a Jagex Moderator

Additional information about the Potato origin was brought to me from a viewer with good attention to detail: On the 17th of May 2005, two months prior to Farming, the potato was added and obtained from Zogre Flesh Eaters quest. At the time it was useless and only an item obtained from an old backpack together with other old-looking items. When Farming was released, the item was replaced with rotten food (as obtained in Canifis these days) and the potato received its moderating powers. Any old potatoes were deleted, where its item ID of 4813 remains empty in the item database to this date. The potato was coded differently and received a new item ID.

Jagex handled this about as poorly as possible at every turn.

And to think, if Jagex hadn’t decided to ban a few innocent players after promising them a reward for reporting bugs, none of this mess sound have happened.

“Permanent life time membership” to the ban list lol

"Hey can I show you a bug" Shows him a bug Banned.

This video could be a freakin' Netflix documentary. This was so well done..

It's funny how they probably would have remained as harmless guys who'd just have some fun, had they not been backstabbed by Jagex. Twice.

Did I hear that right? A J-mod promised rewards for explaining how bugs worked, and instead of rewarding the players as promised, IP banned them instead??

Mod Chrisso: "Next talk of bug abuse in this cc will result in every account you've ever even sniffed being Perm banned." King-Moof: "I abuse cockroaches" What a legend.

never trust what a jmod says they just lie to you i'm really surprized to this day they gave up how it was done

Dang, the company treated these people like crap. According to this presentation, they intently made sure to never ABUSE these bugs to an impactful effect, and even offered to help them with the devs with their findings. Banning them was either out of wounded pride or sheer mindless panic. Either way, makes them all look very short-sighted.

Near the end, the fact that a company can pick and choose random videos they don't want the public to see and slap them with copyright strikes really highlights the totally broken "fair use" bs we have in place. They can take down whatever they feel like, whenever they feel like. Any company on the planet can do it.

This is as infamous as the Falodor Massacre. And what’s funny is in the old OSRS streams where JMods were banning bots and stuff, they still use the rotten potato as their weapon of choice. So we all know the ins and outs of how it works and what it can do, even though we can never access it.

I thought this was just gonna be another re-tread of the rotten potato, but you actually went and explained a very interesting backstory of bug-abusing communities to set the stage, I've learned a lot from this video.

Today I learned that if I find a bug in OSRS to just keep my f-ing mouth shut or suffer a perma ban.

I just love the documentary vibes this video brings about the event

REMEMBER: NEVER COOPERATE WITH ADMINS

Mod Reach being in contact with these guys was definitely not foreshadowing whatsoever.

I felt so special when mod chrisso popped up on me to question me lol. It wasn't even a gamebreaking bug, it was just the graphical glitch from zanaris where you used to be able to keep the choir following you by summoning them when they were spawned, then if you waited for more to spawn you could effectively get as many groups of choirs following you as you wanted.

Jagex has some of the most absurd ban rules of any company. I was perma banned after being hacked, and even figured out how it had happened, but they blocked all appeal attempts so I could not even prove to them that I was hacked. Their justification was that after something like 5000 ban appeals they only had found 2 cases that were legitimate appeals. Which told me that it wasn't that they were so good at banning the right players, but they were absurdly bad at looking into and overturning bans. After 5 years or so of being banned I checked and I was able to appeal, which I did, and the ban was lifted on the grounds that I "never repeat my offense". That is right, as long as I never get hacked again, I wont be perma banned. Bad me for getting hacked. The thing is, the the situation prompted me to look into the actual rules, and they literally say the player is responsible for compromised accounts. Not just accounts compromised due to player error, but accounts compromised through any means. As in, if Jagex gets hacked and my password gets stolen from their servers, I am liable and my account will be perma banned. That is how absurd it is. According to the Jagex TOS the player is responsible for all activity on their account, regardless if it was hacked or even if the hacker gained access through Jagex itself. Imagine if that was a bank telling you that you the customer where responsible for your money being stolen from the bank vault, and you would not only lose all your money, you could no longer bank with them.