The Outer Gods of the DLC - Elden Ring Lore Explained

Placidusax's god was the former vessel of the Elden Ring. The Dragons and the Beastmen were the first civilization to had the Elden Ring, in fact, it was the Greater Will who bestowed intelligence to the beastmen.

Theres another connection to the Fell god in the dlc: the Lamenter, for some reason. When you transform, the fell god's face appears on your back, and there are tufts of red hair between your horns. The Lamenter is the closest thing to an Omen in the dlc, and in retrospect its weird how many times the word Fell is used with Omens in the base game. Margit the Fell, the Fell omen twins guarding the divine tower, the mending rune of the Fell curse. They might be different words in Japanese though, idk

My inner god is that dog inside

2 years ago: Greater Will plays with other Outer Gods a game of throne about who controls the world! Now, finally: IT DON'T CARE.

Something to note about the base serpent that i think Zullie the Witch mentioned first; it always begins the second phase by slamming down and consuming an orb of fire that seems very reminiscent of Rykard's own vision of a serpent swallowing the world. Whether that actually means anything, i dont know.

I don't think it makes sense that Midra was intentionally supportive of the frenzied flame, I think he came in contact with it then the Inquisiton sealed it in him with the golden barb, much like how we seal away rot within Millicent with the golden needle, I think he was merely a prison for the frenzied flame, one that's been leaking for a very long time. He even says "the depths of your foolishness" and then reluctantly pulls out the barb in exhaustion, as if he's hesitant and warning us off.

In the ashes of Ornis It Is said that he "tamed a divine Bird" and that he's the ancestor of the hornsent warriors. Since there are a lot of connections between death rites and the hornsent culture, maybe this Bird Is the twin kite

I've been saying since the game came out, it's stated explicitly in the intro that the Greater Will has abandoned the Lands Between

I really wish we got more lore for the Base Serpent.

I’ve always thought Messmer’s flames were a curse from the fell god. It’s always been stated that Radagon had some connection to the giants and the fell god that caused them to have red hair. I believe the fell gods power manifested through Radagon’s bloodline in Melina and Messmer since Messmer can wield fire Melina can channel the flame of the fell god. Also supporting this is that Messmer has always hated his fire making it more of a curse rather than a blessing.

I love the goofy vintage sounding alien motif that plays when you enter the mother of fingers boss arena. It feels like the most out there thing in elden ring.

I like how Midra has a total Yellow King vibe

If there are outer gods that implies inner gods.

Seeing as unalloyed gold is supposed to suppress the presence of outer gods, I think it's a missed opportunity that it isn't being discussed as to whether in the Age of Compassion that Miquella would be considered the one true god, and thus the belief in other outer gods would be repressed

I think midra was studying the flame when he accidentally inherited it and was impaled to hold back the flame from taking over and making him a lord, which is possibly why he was too weak when he eventually did become a lord and why he apologizes to nanaya when he transforms

There's an interesting item somewhere that's a Spiritgrave stone that's been burned by the frenzied flame - it describes how the frenzied flame has the power to burn away spirits despite their being eternal, which is the reason the Hornsent forbid it. I thought this was interesting cause the Hornsent seem to have a death rite spirituality based on a different kind of cremation with ghostflame. Haven't seen this discussed much.

6:20 Glad you mentioned this - I think the "heat death of the universe" is exactly what inspired the "chaos flame", which is a very artistic interpretation of the phrase but nevertheless lines up with it perfectly.

You forgot to mention a diary page that hints at the parry opening up the lanterns for an attack. It says "I touched him, but only once. When he thrust his staff in my face, I brushed it aside. It was then that I touched him. The aging untouchable." Perhaps, the fact that you show confidence in the face of it's weakness, humiliates the monster and opens it up for attacks.

I have headcanon that makes me believe that the Formless Mother is actually the fleshy "jar" remains of Marika. That once she ascended to godhood; her flesh followed suit. This is why it desires wounds, the intense torture of the Hornsent which most certainly twisted the collective mind of the jar innard shamans. I came to this idea because there is a prominent jar innard enemy in shadow keep that creates a large pool of bleed-inducing magic effects.

I have reason to believe Messmer's and Miquella's curses are the work of outer gods. Malenia's scarlet rot is from the sealed God, Melina's vision of fire is from the Fell God. It could be that Miquella's youthfulness (which he seems to have gotten rid of in the boss fight) and the Abyssal serpent are more instances of this happening. Edit: The abyssal serpent is possibly related to the God-Devouring serpent and Eiglay, who likely have an outer god related them based on the magma sorcery descriptions. Additionally, miquella's curse is sort of an antithesis to the scarlet rot, as he never decays or withers like his sister.