Golf Mk7 Single Mass Vs Dual Mass Clutch Sound Comparison (W/ Fluidampr)

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Published 2020-05-12

This is my attempt of a before and after clutch comparison of the noise we get when upgrading a MK7 with manual transmission to a single mass flywheel.

This is the day after my car was upgraded. I got the APR Stage 2 with APR downpipe, and a South Bend Stage 3 Daily clutch. And I had the Fluidampr installed just because it seemed like a good idea.

The reason for the upgrade was because I upgraded to APR Stage II. I know the stock clutch will not hold up to the stage 2 tune, so I decided to replace it before I had problems, rather than waiting for the inevitable problems.

I had 50k miles on the stock clutch, and I had APR stage 1 91 octane (low torque) since around 2,000 miles. I got the tune in late 2016, and from what I can remember, the published numbers at the time were 290ft/lbs and 269hp.

The new clutch is the South Bend Stage 3 Daily. I also had a Fluidampr installed at the same time.

Please let me know how you think this compares to a single mass without Fluidampr. This isn't a perfect test, but hopefully the comparison makes it easier for someone considering the upgrade to know what it will sound like.

My conclusion is that the noise is really not a big deal. It kind of comes and goes as well. I don't hear it at all when I'm in the car; it's literally the day after I had it installed, and I'm trying to decide if I actually notice it!

All Comments (21)

@MitchTube 2 years ago

M golf r 7.5 makes no noise at idle, but off throttle in 2/3 gear it sounds like a cross between a box of bolts and straight cut gears. Also a lot more vibration at low speeds accelerating in all gears. Upside is it doesn’t slip and I’ve lost a fair chunk of spinning mass. Everything is a compromise….
@gtx332 3 years ago

Thanks for the vid. Helpful!
@72defender 3 years ago

Thanks for sharing this information!
@Dupergirl1 3 years ago

Thank you so much for this niche Video! :)
@Jeff-bj7rs 3 years ago

Great vid. Thank you.
@ark-mark1 3 months ago

Thank you for the video, I thought that some turbo heatshield was cracked and ratling.
@zoroluva 2 years ago

Man that rattling is pretty bad. Makes it sound like a diesel!
@living4adrenaline 2 years ago

Look at that, he's even sipping a soda.
@matthewkauffmann982 3 years ago

Thanks!
@pi11sburydoeboy 3 years ago

Any issues with this setup? I ordered a Spec clutch with a SMF but all of these reports of crank walk (which has happened with stock clutches and DMF) got me worried.
@Hahbeeb925 14 days ago

OK, so I just had a slave cylinder go bad in my 2006 GTI before that it wasn’t shifting the greatest so I figured I’d have to replace the clutch the clutch the guy at the shop ordered is a stage two clutch/Dmf kit … when I got the car it was already built. The guy at the shop said there was a SMF already in there but he figured it was a cheaper stage two clutch … now I’m going too stage two dmf ? Will this affect performance and how so ? .
@Mellchior 3 years ago

Thanks for the video. Do you find that you need to raise your engine RPM higher to achieve clutch step off from a stop after going to a single mass flywheel?
@NunYaBeezWax80 1 year ago

Try ta sound test with the A/C on. My 2015 Eco mustang sounds horrible in neutral with the A/C on.
@alanversfeld7497 2 years ago

Hi ,Fredy I have fitted single mass to tdi t4 2.5 ,I used special oil to minimise rattle but am interested in fluid damper as well could you send pic or details
@DJMAZ514 6 months ago

Do 1 liter shock prof oil the rest with with original oil or redline oil
@richardnorman1158 2 years ago

sounds like my mondeo st tdci with smf
@philtheobserver8206 3 years ago

Thanks for the video. I noticed in a reply to another comment you said that the engagement is really smooth with the single mass, and doesn't have the annoying jolt upon full engagement that the dual mass has. This is something that bugs me also in my car (mk4 platform audi a3) and I too am considering changing to a single mass flywheel. One thing that concerns me is the clutch pedal feel, not the weight of it, but the distance over which the clutch engages. Is the engagement 'profile' at the pedal with the single mass similar or the same as it was with the dual mass? Thanks
@roberttaylor6075 1 year ago

What make are you using, reason I ask is that there are some really cheap nasty smf kits out there. There is two makes that have built in dampers to the clutch plate and use a different clutch plate material. On all the one's I have read they could not tell any real difference and they did not rattle like yours.
@thiagobravo 4 months ago

It make me a little uncomfortable. But yeah when inside the car with windows up you can't hear it.
@dominik8788 2 years ago

Nice video! By the way here in austria our petrol octane starts at 95 up to 100 octanes..💪