Penuel The Black Pen In Conversation With Ernst Van Zyl, AfriForum, Fikile Mbalula, ANC, Afrikaans

This interview just made me realize the only way forward for our country. Together.

As an older man, I looked at these two young men discussing a wide spectrum of topics with such mutual respect for each other and it warms my old heart. I watched and listened to the future and hope of this wonderful country of ours, our young people. Mooi so manne, julle maak ons trots.

I like how Pen has developed over time in his craft; he is not argumentative but seeks to hear the other side and manages to get the deep convictions of people almost seamlessly. This a great ability that we need coz we get to know people's real nature and views. Great interview and the young Afrikaner brother has represented himself well and has put Afrikaans and Afrikaners in a clearer light.

This video shows me a young black man and a young white man sitting opposite each other and talking about our country's problems a manifestation of what a beautiful country this can be with this kind of talent.

How refreshing to hear two young South Africans from different backgrounds cordially discussing history and our current issues to try and undestand each other instead of blaming or shouting at each other. Well done Pennuel for reaching out to Ernst and lending him your ear. Mutual respect for our differences and celebration of what we have in common is the way forward.

Hit me hard when he said that Political leaders don't even use public health care let alone security. Why are we still voting for these people?

What an inspiring interview. We need start our own Organizations like Afriforum and build our own communities and stop wait for a government that not working for us.

The Penuel Show should be the NO.1 Podcast in Africa, Extremely informative on a different level

Cannot express what a truly heart warming experience this was. The youth of this country will lead the way and show those who couldn't move forward how to do it. Well done guys! Loved listening

Blessed to be a South African with young fellas like this.

I believe that black people in South Africa should learn from AfriForum about the importance of unity and perseverance in the face of adversity. While I do not necessarily agree with all of the viewpoints and actions of AfriForum, their dedication to fighting for the rights and interests of their community can be a valuable lesson for all marginalized groups. Black South Africans should also seek to advocate for themselves and demand equal treatment, just as AfriForum seeks to preserve the interests of white South Africans. Dialogue and understanding across different communities can help to foster a more just and equitable society for all.

Thank you for the great opportunity, Penuel. Like I said, so many people today have unfortunately lost the ability to listen to anyone who does not 100% agree with them. Many have also lost the ability to listen entirely. "This person is wrong because they are white, black, Afrikaner or Zulu"-reasoning is not going to cut it. It's just a desperate excuse to avoid engaging arguments and ideas you can't refute. Let's disagree, but at least robustly engage my arguments, and I will grant you the same treatment. Once again, I thoroughly enjoyed this discussion, as well as the one we had on my YouTube channel. Mooi loop. - Ernst

If your a South African and you’re watching this and you vote for the ANC or were planning or are still planning on Voting for the ANC you’re part of the problem

The best interview yet, Ernest van Zyl is a well read guy. He's well informed historically, politically, economically and religiously! Leadership right there...

So impressed by the amount of respect shown by both sides of the table.

This conversation gives me hope for the future of South Africa.

To hear this guy speak so passionately about the mission and purpose of the Afrikaners makes me ashamed to be a black guy without a vision and mission for being black that I am passionate about. My mind is boggled and I am challenged to study what the Afrikaners are doing so I can replicate the success in my small area.

Bloody gold right here, this is how you do it, might just revolutionize South Africa here.

Finally, SA has a Joe Rogan! Thanks, Penuel for the unbias interviewing and insightfull comments of how your community may see some issue in contrast to my community.

All I can is Ernst is a very young smart guy shuuu penuel thank you for bringing him on the show ensrt spoke truth and sense about this country 🇿🇦