Loudness Trumps EVERYTHING!

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Published 2024-04-08
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0:00 Where did loudness normalization come from?
0:54 When do differences in loudness get noticed?
1:34 Does loudness matter when submitting your song to a label?
2:27 What happens ACTUALLY happens when A&R listens to music
3:24 How much loudness difference can you notice?
3:43 Why you should submit a competitively loud master to labels
4:07 Does loudness matter for purchasers of your music & DJs?
5:18 Should you master to -14 LUFS for Spotify and Apple Music?
6:05 Loudness targets…do they matter?
6:49 What do other mix & mastering engineers think?
7:29 Why most people can’t mix or master loud
8:01 How to create the potential for loudness
8:53 Don’t be scared of loudness

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All Comments (21)
  • @warpacademy
    Here are videos from other well respected and experienced sources that support the assertions in this video. David Gnozzi from @mixbusTV https://youtu.be/aIRlee-WHHQ?t=172 https://youtu.be/lk4D4bMu8uo?si=m73C7mEdAcSmVcUm Sage Audio explaining how mastering to -10 LUFS instead of -14 LUFS for DSPs like Spotify will actually make your song sound louder despite the "normalization" reduction: https://youtu.be/YJVE4_CQ9Ts?t=330 Nicholas Di Lorenzo @panorama_mastering explaining how loud masters is what the industry wants and how too much crest factor (micro-dynamic range) ruins the possibility for a clean and loud master: https://youtu.be/zkokZ_Aokzc?list=PLQuSU9mtAxP4cFk5EltsZI0nSt60soqTx&t=130 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wif-yiiefvA& @TheCosmicAcademy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXOMLu3Xz6I Here are the links to the original Audio Engineering Society Loudness Trumps Everything article and just noticeable loudness difference research cited in this video: AES Journal Article: Loudness Trumps Everything: www.aes.org/e-lib/online/browse.cfm?elib=13685 AES Journal Research: The Subjective Loudness of Typical Program Material: www.aes.org/e-lib/browse.cfm?elib=12350
  • @aprstudio7115
    Amen dude!! I’m a mastering engineer and I’ve been preaching all these points. Thank you for nailing all these points with research. One master to rule them all.
  • Thanks Warp! A great and well thought out video. Advocating for quality first then explaining how loudness can make a difference in a real world context is very helpful. As you say, to go loud you need a great mix, otherwise you get garbage. But also the method you use to go loud (appropriate limiter settings needed).
  • @CypiXmusic
    A lot of great bits and pieces here, especially the YouTube part. Didnt know they turn down but not up, but the reasoning for it makes total sense
  • @Durkhead
    You forgot to mention that high frequencies sound louder than low frequencies so even though your track might say -8 lufs if its bass heavy it will sound quieter than a track with more high frequencies at the same -8 lufs
  • @bitflux2
    congrats on all the new content, the branding and quality is on point
  • @Rhekluse
    Great video mate. Lovely editing as well. Big ups on that new studio as well. Damn son it looks soo good.
  • @VarunPratapSingh
    Would love to see your take on how to have maxium loudness right from the mix phase. Not in support of the loudness war but it is something I would like to have more information from a trusted source like you.
  • @marcinrau2817
    Dubstep Producers laughing at -1 Lufs xD (Really good and informative Video! Thank you!)
  • @MalikAmer87
    Totally agree, -8 Lufs was a standard for a long time depends on the genre, now everything is getting louder and louder.
  • @VERYVANITA
    if it feels good , sound is secondary imo music is about feel , and vibe at least in my part of the world., you can have the best technical mix and master at just the right volume /loudness if it don't feel right it ain't going anywhere.
  • @ryancole3462
    More Warp Academy knowledge nuggets. Perfect. Thanks Drew.
  • @dvtennis1318
    25 years again only an obsessed DJ artist audio sound dude bro guy might make such observations, presumably at least of higher potentiality…. Although an opportunity or ability to convey such notions never seemed to arise… This is a long overdue & great explanation with a very smooth, convincing delivery!!!
  • @screendrem
    blackbox k clip 3 pro l2 Fabfilter bax eq izotope =specific tools and techniques shown at 8 mins 6 secs... fair points thought.