What Could Have Been: Sam Raimi's Spider-Man 4

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If a Spider-Man 4 came out now, I’d still watch it. I’d really like to see what he could do if he had all of the creative control.

I still hope we get a Spider-Man 4, the passion and creativity Sam Raimi has for Spider-Man and his world would just make a truly amazing and spectacular film.

Campbell as Mysterio is something I feel personally robbed of

Bringing on Felicia Hardy and then NOT have her be Black Cat but some other character made up just for this movie would have been a straight slap in the face to Spider-Man fans.

The idea that he's called the Vulture because his technology will literally leave you a pile of ash and bones is metal af and already makes me wish Vulture went that hard in the comics

I like Spider-Man 3 more than most but it’s not a great not note to leave the series. I really wish that one day we can see a conclusion that Raimi and co are happy with.

Spider-Man 3 isn't as bad as a lot of people remember. Definitely the weakest of the trilogy imo, but it does serve as a pleasant ending to all the character drama. The original trilogy feels genuine in that way, as now we see an endless chain of superhero films that won't end any time soon.

Man I always think about Raimi’s Spider-Man 3 and 4 and what they could’ve really been

I was hoping they'd do something with The Lizard. They'd been working up to it in the first two movies.

FUN FACT: Peters cringe dance and behavior in 3 was because thats Peter's perspective on what a badass is like. Cause hes a huge nerd. But it flew over everybodys heads

I think absolutely we should get Spider-Man 4, hell bring on Amazing 3!

The funny thing is we still got all the villains Vulture, Lizard, Mysterio, Shocker, Electro, Rhino, and Prowler eventually anyway.

A lot of time, studio heads are that one friend at Game Night who doesn't know how to play the board game, won't listen to the people who know how to play the board game, and then slaps the entire game board off the table and demands a different game when it becomes clear they are losing- only to repeat the process all over again.

I’m pretty sure Sam Raimi admitted that he was just using his favorite villains and not the popular ones, but I don’t see the problem in that. Sure, Venom probably sold more toys than Vulture would’ve, but if you don’t care about the characters you’re writing, then your writing’s gonna suffer. I like Spider-Man 3, it’s my favorite of the trilogy, but even I have to admit that Venom wasn’t written as well as he could’ve been. I never agreed with everyone saying that it had too many villains and plotlines. I think the movie was structured well, and the main problem was just that Sam Raimi didn’t know enough or care enough about Venom to do him justice. Still, I find it odd that Sam Raimi wanted to use the villains he liked the most, but somehow ended up using Spider-Man’s four biggest villains (at least in my opinion) in descending order across his three films.

I feel like now that we’ve seen Tobey in no way home I want to see a spider man 4 the way raimi originally intended, and potentially see an older spider man deal with his final and biggest villains yet, although idk how they would top doc ock he’s my favourite villain of all time

The way Spider-Man 3 and amazing Spider-Man 2 both ended were kinda sad and weren’t the send offs they both deserved

A friend of mine had a small role in Spider-Man 2. It was originally a single scene and one line, but he hit it off with Raimi, and his role was slightly expanded. A few years later, we were talking, and he said "Don't tell anyone, but I was asked to be in Spider-Man 4". Raimi liked to use actors who he liked in small roles in his films, and he remembered my friend from SM2. He told me that he was going to do a full-cast table read of the script in a few weeks, and was excited for it. A couple of months later, I saw him again and asked how everything went. He told me "They're rebooting the series with all new actors, and not doing SM4". That was the first I had heard about the reboot, and also one of the factors that left a bad taste in my mouth about those two reboot films.

I really want a movie with scorpion as the villain!

Man I don't blame him for leaving but I still wish it was made. Great vid man.