Unraveling the Mysteries of Fionna & Cake Episode 6 "The Winter King"

The winter king is so messed up but the fact that our simon hated what he did says alot about how much he changed as a character

*The reason our Simon doesn't die when he loses his magic is because he was reset by Golb, meanwhile the Winter King just lost the magic without Golb

I have a different theory about ice Marceline : - In the song we see Simon and young Marceline getting attacked and the monsters are the same as those who went after our Simon and our Marceline after Simon promised her to never use the crown again (when he hide her in the car). - In our univers, Simon breaks the promise and kill the monsters but it's not what we see in the song. Here, we see them BRACE FOR IMPACT. - I believe the winter king kept his promise (kind of) and he survived but not Marceline. - I think that's why it's a YOUNG ice Marceline : he never got to see her all grown-up

Everyone misses the point with Simon. Simons defining characteristics is his kindness and compacion. When he sees demon child crying in a middle of apocalipse he helps her even tho he's totaly not in a good position himself. When he's being chased by Ozers and comes across crowbar and pillow he chooses pillow as a weapon. When we come across the winter king he looks like everything we would want Simon to be. Powerfull, immortal, sane, inteligent and fun. But it is revealed that this situation came into being purly because he didn't care about anyone other than himself. Simon might be depresed but at the end of the day he's doing what he's doing because he wants to help others.

Something that could help the theory of the winter king killing marceline is when Simon asks if there's a Betty in that universe. The winter king shrugs off Betty and just sees her as "the dead one" that he hasn't thought about in a long time. He then goes on to state that Simon can make a new Betty out of ice before he immediately says that would be "unethical." The parallels are very similar. Matceline is dead, so the winter king makes an "unethical" ice version of her. He's being a bit contradictive and hypocritical. It's almost as if he's trying to justify making ice marceline in his head.

The winter king literally swapped mindsets with princess bubblegum when he made her crazy, he became EXACTLY like princess bubblegum. A sociopath obsessed with perfection, very intelligent but unlike bubblegum, he admitted magic was real.

One thing I noticed, Marshal Lee was quick to call in a favor with his mom to get the lemoncarbs to Gary. But he told Fionna he couldn’t ask a favor from his mom because they were on bad terms

I loved the Winter King’s song. It was like a Disney song, and when I learned about the Winter King’s true character, it REALLY felt like a Disney song! :D

"Fionna's cake has had 0 service across the multiverse" LMAO I just laughed at this for 2 minutes straight

My theory is that this world was Marcelines wish. Couple of reasons why, 1. Prismo’s wishes love their monkey paws, especially when they impact the wisher (Finn’s wish turning him into the IK, or BMO stuck as a baby monitor, meaning he can’t interact with his cute baby friends) 2. We never hear any mention of what could have or did happen to Marcy. 3. Last clear memory Simon would have of Marcy wouldn’t be as the vampire queen, but as a young girl. So here’s my theory. A version of Marceline, 100 years before the start of the show, gained access to the time room. She wishes that simon was sane. This gives WK the ability to transfer his madness. Now, what’s a good monkeys paw for a wish like this? That’s right, that the madness is transferred to the other most important person in her life (they may have even been dating). Now, Simons still left with the sadness and the magic, while her girlfriends full on mad.

I feel like Ice King wouldn't have come up with the idea of projecting the crown's madness, so maybe there was a little truth in the force of will thing. But that would have been a very temporary solution, so Winter King's first decision was to offload the madness before he lost himself again.

When Gary meets Marshall Lee, he grabs a bat on a stick and when they are at Lord Monochromicorn's shop, Marshall is looking at bubblegums. I also saw others point out that Marshall Lee's interest on Gary's Candy Kingdom kind of antiparallels Marceline's song Wake Up in which she sing "I don't really care about your stupid Candy Kingdom"

I personally believe that in the winter kings world, marceline died as a child while still in the apocalypse situation with Simon. This is why we see her in her child form, since that is the last form winter king saw marce as, she never got to grow up. This grief made him “unethically” make an ice version of her, most likely after casting the spell on bubblegum. I don’t think he killed marceline, or if he did it was when she was still a child. Her presence seems to be plain absent in that world, especially since PB doesn’t ask about her after gaining sanity. This might contribute to winter kings state, being less empathetic n stuff. Just thoughts

Its more likely that marcy died very young from the oozers...the "ooze chase" seems to be an important moment to this WK just like for all Simons and in his song that's when he said he "didn't know what to do" . For someone as narcissistic as the WK, the oozers scene is an interesting footnote that he could have EASILY omitted, after all. Its more likely that the WK abandoned a child marcy to her fate out of cowardice only to (perhaps even years) later return and recover the only thing thing that was left of her...

CQ: "I put you into a Blender with me" Simon: "what a nice metaphor" CQ: "not a metaphor" 😅

“There is one key difference between the iceclops” Me: Nipples! Paxw: the hats Me: oh yes of course, the hats

I like how he’s just as insane as ice king, but in a completely different way

I wonder is The Winter King making a crown for Simon wasn't some kind of trap, because he was definitely evil, so it's logical to assume that it all may have been some kind of trap, or maybe he just genuinely wanted to help another Simon.

I like to think Ice Prince will be what Simon becomes when he actually gets the powers back

What I saw when fionna was starting to fight was more like a enchantment/technology acting similarly to a animated weapon or more or less acting on its own while fionna stands there and let's it have at it