Mouse & Keyboard IS DEAD On Apex Legends?

before leaving a dislike, I hope this sparks a genuine conversation. Did my best in this video to really talk out my genuine thoughts but my naive positivity towards having both inputs work! Timestamps: 00:00 Mouse & Keyboard Dead On Apex Legends? 00:47 Important Things Needed For Controller Players 01:30 Majority Are Currently On Controller 01:56 Shift In Pro Meta For Input Decision 02:31 Aim Assist Not Exactly The Problem 02:56 Skewing Of Data 04:04 Time Investment To Net Results 07:58 Problem Of Mouse & Keyboard 08:29 Reality 09:02 Comparing Of Other FPS Games 09:49 Closing Question To The Community 11:22 Apex Legends Recent Balancing Positives

Solo makes it clear. Almost everyone on roller even on eu server. unbeatable horizons with havok

I have almost 3,000 hours on MnK, and I just swapped to controller and have clocked in maybe a couple hundred hours. MnK is way more fun and rewarding to learn, but I've had serious, consistent, and significantly positive results since switching to controller. I dropped my first 20 bomb game on controller this past week and have been having a way easier time winning team fights with my ranked squad. All my friends play on MnK, but they all are anchor/support type players. I was like them on MnK. Since switching to controller, I've been way more aggressive, and it's led to us winning more team fights and games. I will say that I deal significantly less damage than I used to while on MnK and compared to my friends who are still on MnK because they use long-range weapons effectively. I am getting way more kills, though because I realize that most fights end from close range. I miss MnK often and will swap back on occasion when playing Mixtape or pubs, but I'm staying on controller for ranked or any tournaments. Side note: I was inspired to make the switch after seeing Lou (from Complexity) and Albraleile (formerly of TSM, C9, Furia) switch over to controller and find success. 2nd side note: I will sometimes swap inputs mid-match to loot or hit a sick kraber shot on someone from far away. I also prefer playing certain legends on MnK like Crypto, Newcastle, Wattson

The removal of visual clutter would be a great first step. In season 0 you could use a console command to remove muzzle flashes and it made aiming so much more consistent since you could actually see what you were shooting at. I think it would also be interesting to see aim assist evolve a bit. Possibly its strength reduces when the gun is actively being fired, so the AA would be more useful to acquire a target but require more user input to stay on target when shooting. But as an MNK player I could never see myself switching over to controller unless it was for a health/mobility reason. I don't care how many advantages it can provide I simply find MNK more engaging and satisfying way to play FPS.

I'll quit before I convert to 'roller. Playing on a controller is not fun to me. They need to balance it out.

One clips used to be rare...now its like every solos killcam

Removing the Digi Threat doesn't mean it helps MNK players. Aim Assist is turned off when a person is inside Bangalore smoke. This allowed MNK players to duel Roller players while Roller players had to use raw input since their AA is turned. So Digi Threat benefited MNK players more than Roller players and removing it hurts MNK players overall.

Im swapping to Xdefiant for now before it dies, it have a option to play only with people with the same input as you.

AA rotational needs delay atm it has 0ms reaction time which is inhumane and one of the reason why aa is so strong in close range. From there we could see if they should for example buff long range aa to make up for it. Movement tech is really not need for both inputs 98% of the time good position and shooting is way more important. Moving while looting should be available for both inputs. Apart from that I personally dont think controller belong in competitive shooters if they can only perform with aa. And they need aa to compete with mnk, controller are simply not an imput that is designed to play shooters. Unless they force everybody to use gyro aim and that only works with Xbox finally adds it to there controller.

Not gon lie. I'm wavering on mnk. I played on controller the other day and the amount of close ranged fights I won was staggering in comparison

i think a lot of people overlook something important to realize about apex aim assist. its the exact same aim assist as titanfall. and it worked in titanfall because the speed of the game is over 5x the speed of apex by default. and you can really master the movement in titanfall and youre doing 10-15x the speed of apex. so it needs to be ramped down for it to "belong" in apex.

I feel like the best solution to this problem is that having lobbies according to your inputs. Game detecting your input and putting you in accordingly. Controller lobbies only and MNK lobbies only. No crossplay lobbies at all.

Yo Dazs im the dude that knew xarcotix we ran into eachother a few months ago. They never should have done the hipfire spread nerf. Thats what really sent controller over the edge over mnk in a lot of situations and also visual clutter.

Don't nerf rolles. Boost comfort of using M&K. Remove visual clutter, camera shake and cross hair screen movement. If you learn to read aim assist guiding things like fire, muzzle flashes and legend's abilities don't hold you back that much. On m&k you can have better control over your aim but when everything starts flashing and shaking your whole view there is nothing that can help you keep track of enemies and you're in disadvantage against rollers

I remember someone once said controller players play on pc and complain about mnk yet they themselves don’t use an mnk. i still think about that to this day.

I don't think we should give controllers all of the movement techs, if they start lurching close range with aa its over for MnK.

Respawn is aware that MNK is disadvantaged against Roller even with Tap strafing/moving while looting/etc. However, they're not going to do anything about it as evidenced by their response about the gap with "Yeah, we'll do something in a couple years" some months ago.

Love ur videos Bro!

Is it still the implementation of aim assist being rotational pulling to central mass of character model over just having it as slow down?

Yes!! Dazs the first tip I feel like when it comes to the config problem they should of kept the moving while looting for controller especially coming from a controller movement player Ive never use configs but the deathbox looting would be so goated to do!