Consolidation of Power by Athens (c. 478-470 BCE)

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Published 2021-12-17
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  • @MLaserHistory
    ! Extra Information & Clarifications ! 0:00 Just like in the first video, in this video, and during the entire Athenian Empire series, I am going to be using Latinized versions of names and words (and the Latin pronunciation of them) as I am not good at reading the Greek alphabet let alone ancient Greek. 1:18 5th century BCE division of Athenian money is: 8 chalkoi = 1 obolus 6 oboloi = 1 drachma 100 drachmae = 1 mina (or mna) 60 minae = 1 Athenian Talent Keep in mind that not all city states in ancient Greece divided money the same way the Athenians did and also that every city state, for the most part, minted its own money. 1:54 Since Athens was the hegemon of the Delian League, they were in charge of the administrations of the league including the administration of the payments (the administration of the treasury itself most likely fell to the Temple of Apollo at Delos where the money was stored). This included things like the collection of payments, or assessing how much each city state should pay, etc. 2:00 Some historians also believe the 460 talents number was so high because it didn't just account for the raw cash amount of treasury payments but also for the value of the ships and soldiers the city states that didn't pay to the treasury provided. 2:12 We don't know the exact list of which cities contributed money and which soldiers and triremes, specially in the first 50 years of the league. "we can only be certain that they included Lesbos, Chios and Samos, and very probably Thasos." David Blackman. "The Athenian Navy and the Allied Naval Contributions in the Pentecontaetia." Greek, Roman and Byzantine Studies 10, no. 3 (2003): p. 179. 6:18 Since Thucydides often doesn't give us dates much of the dating of the events in the 5h century is debated by historians. Most of the dates in my videos are taken from 'A Commentary on Thucydides' by Simon Hornblower, unless I state otherwise in the pinned comment or the video. 8:25 Some of the Chalkidike peninsula came into the League at this point as well, although, most likely parts of it where in the league since the start of the Delian League as pointed out by Hornblower p. 14. Some parts of the Chalkidike most likely also joined the league later on, in the 460s and 50s, but we don't have exact dates so due to a more streamline flow of the video I have decided to count the whole of the peninsula as joining after the fall of Eion. Doriscus was the main Thracian city that didn't leave Persia and remained in Persian control until probably the late 460s or the 450s. Also, after the Persian defeat at Eion the Thracian tribes started to consolidate into the Odrysian Kingdom that became a thing probably in the 460s so will be mentioned in the next video. For now I showed Persian control in inland Thrace with patterned lines to display that Persia still had some nominal power there until the full consolidation of the Odrysian Kingdom in the 460s. 8:31 aparche = meaning first fruits, is a percentage of the booty, harvest, profits, etc. (usually decided upon ahead of time and in the instance of the Delian League was most likely 1/10 of the booty) that are given to the gods, i.e. the temples dedicated to the gods, as an offering. 9:13 Peraia = "a community's territory lying 'opposite', predominantly (but not exclusively) a mainland possession of an island state" 9:59 It is unknown whether the Scyros expedition was a league expedition or just an Athenian expedition with no league members involved but, considering the details we talked about I think it is far more plausible that this was solely an Athenian campaign. There is also a possibility that the expedition could have been solely a Cimon's idea which was retrospectively approved by the Athenians after Cimon successfully took the Island. 10:34 Well, actually, there are multiple different myths about Theseus and where he dies. But most historians agree that the myth that is being referred to in the message from Delphi to Athens is the one I talked about. 15:13 Aristides was asked about his state of wealth in a trial of Callias, the cousin of Aristides, who was tried on a capital charge. During the trial Callias was questioned about his great wealth and why he didn't help out Aristides. His poor family member. Aristides than allegedly replied to this question as stated in the video. 16:34 Spartans also didn't like Themistocles because he shot down their idea of excluding some Greeks from the first Hellenic League during the Greco Persian wars. Basically you don't go against the Spartans without consequences. Themistocles was also accused of corruption multiple times but, to be fare, almost every Athenian politician was accused of corruption at some point. 16:49 "There are also strong proofs of his [Aristides] reasonableness to be seen in his treatment of Themistocles. This man he had found to be his foe during almost all his public service, and it was through this man that he was ostracized; but when Themistocles was in the same plight, and was under accusation before the city, Aristides remembered no evil; nay, though Alcmeon and Cimon and many others denounced and persecuted the man, Aristides alone did and said no meanness, nor did he take any advantage of his enemy's misfortune, just as formerly he did not grudge him his prosperity." Plut, Arist, 25.7 17:15 To be fare we don't know much about the Naxian rebellion other than that it happened. What I am stating here is a historical scenario presented by some historians but since there is no actual source that talks about the event, the event itself is debated. 18:04 Arche = rule or empire.
  • @philipromland
    I love this, don’t be disparaged by views and numbers, what you’re doing is incredibly high quality
  • @smorcrux426
    I like the historia civilis inspired look, it's hard to imagine classical antiquity without it!
  • @Cheesenommer
    Really enjoyed that story about Theseus' bones. Those are the kind of thing that make classical history entertaining.
  • Honestly history can be cooler than Game of Thrones, it's just about how the educator presents it!
  • @fanmovie357
    You are doing a great service by covering these 50 or so years between the persian wars and pelopponesse war
  • Most Nations: how about we make our symbol a dragon or a lion or something fierce like that Athens: me I want a cute owl
  • @Artur_M.
    Oh, what a day! First Sam Aronow, later M. Laser uploaded really great videos. Looks like Christmas came early. Also, I liked the subtle reference to History Matters and his signature style of humour at 17:33.
  • @tribiz6762
    “Maybe in the future it will do better” this is that video my friend. Excellent job.
  • @user-qp1ys5de9t
    This was an excellent series, I haven’t seen much content on this time period! Thanks for your efforts. You’re a great narrator
  • @danik4244
    Thank you for continuing the series I super appreciate it!
  • Haha, when you started talking about bones I also pictured the Runescape bones item, and then you used the picture :) Nice
  • @aresswenl112
    Love the video mate, found you through your first video on Athens and it was great. Subscribed!
  • @PakBallandSami
    With side are you own Athens or Sparta Chosen wisely💀
  • @BiggestCorvid
    As an Historia Civilis Stan, I LOVE the video style please keep these up. I love this channel.
  • I don't know Greek history well (until now!) but I have read Greek myths and know who Theseus was. The idea of the Ship of Theseus bringing back the bones of Theseus almost gave me goose bumps. I can only imagine how powerful that would have been to the people at the time. Truly fantastic!