Weinstein vs Penrose: Do We Need Quantum Gravity?

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Are singularities real? Or are we just fooling ourselves? And if they’re not real, why do we need a theory of quantum gravity? Three years ago, I had the privilege of discussing this with two of my favorite people – Sir Rogen Penrose and Eric Weinstein! Here’s a clip from the encounter. Enjoy!

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All Comments (21)
  • @ETbutforreal
    I like how Roger is the combined age of the two of you and still articulates as if he were the same age as you two.
  • @jpx1508
    Penrose is a generational talent. As is apparent with the Nobel Prize (black hole formation) and Wolf Prize (with Hawking for Penrose-Hawking Singularity Theorems), the relative intellectual stature of these men is not close... and it's a bit of a vanity jerk for Weinstein to be taking first billing and pretending this vid is some sort of legitimate contest in the same intellectual weight class. Penrose is also a humble man who reaches to share his love for the craft of maths and physics, including indulging in this "debate" to take his love of physics and maths to new YouTube audiences.
  • My father was fond of saying, "well, wasn't that a singular something!" So I propose that we replace the term 'singularity' with 'singular something'. That should clear everything up.
  • @starorange8449
    For everyone's transparency, this video is 3 years old.
  • @moogoatcluck7544
    Me watching this conversation is much like a golden retriever listening to Mozart.
  • @jasonbach9885
    I didn't understand even a single sentence... but just WOW...🙃
  • @Starship_X
    Re-posting years-old discussions without a date/timestamp is a deceptive practice for more clicks/views and makes me less likely to continue following your content moving forward. This is a repeated pattern of behavior, unfortunately.
  • @clorofilaazul
    Comparing Penrose with Weinstein is like comparing an iPhone with a rock. :D
  • Singularity state is like trying to reach absolute zero just in the opposite direction but heat and cold are basically the same thing at extreme enough temperatures. Good video giving clarification of though process... Penrose kinda touches on letting go of 3d thinking to find the answer but spin is just a description of a 3d state. Another great well though out clip to post.💯💚💜
  • @jamesi8594
    What a fantastic conversation to be able to watch! 👍
  • The only thing I can bring up right off the bat is that a singularity shows up in convex or concave mirror in your last video was very crucial for this and I know this seems very simplistic but it's a crucial importance and all powerful things are usually simplistic
  • @Killer_Kovacs
    In CCC, wouldn't the singularity be the conformal edge? I know Sir Penrose theorizes that ccc begins and ends with aeons but is it totally necessary for that all or nothing approach?
  • @aaronbaca
    Dr. Keating, in times like this, I tell myself... It is better to be underpaid and overvalued than a Noble Prize Award Winner and undervalued.
  • @Doozy_Titter
    Hey, is the full conversation somewhere on YouTube?
  • @paryanindoeur
    At this point in physics , from my outsider perspective, it seems like being a physicist is a bit of a disadvantage. Issues of publishing, reputation, and conservative constraints are nowadays too constraining to achieve the next big break... which means physics is due for a paradigm shift. I have a few ideas of where that shift might be headed, but even if I'm wrong about the details, the amount of effort it takes to gain even relatively small territorial gains is disproportionate compared to other eras of physics, due to the unwillingness to take necessary risks. There is always new ground, but at some points, a punctuated equilibrium of sorts -- a paradigm shift -- must precede discovery of new, fallow ground.
  • Roger Penrose is my hero. Weinstein is pretty cool too. These guys are looking under the rocks! Here is my idea: Time is a wave, yes? Explain the wake to me? I think it's gravity. That would explain a lot. Look at it: Time moves one way, and gravity pulls every so slightly back the other way. It keeps the geometric narrative of quantum math of existence on Earth attached to the sphere inside the multiverse as the math of existence unfolds.