The Actual Traitor Revealed: Luxu and Ava's TRUE Roles -Theory/Discussion

Aside from the whole Ava/Kairi’s Grandma/Heart Transfer theory that I’m still pondering about. I gotta say that this is one the best theories you’ve put together that has made me focus more on what Luxu’s role and the MoM’s plan could possibly be. I feel like the whole Quadratum story involving Yozora is nothing more than a small distraction that Nomura planned in order for people to not try to predict the upcoming events and will later be an important part when Luxu completes his role and the real 13 darknesses show up.

What's crazier than this theory, is the fact I still trust TMOM for the most part. He hasn't given any legit reason to distrust him just yet.

Doesn’t the MoM literally call Luxu the traitor at the end of UX after he walks away. Therefore, the MoM already knows Luxu is going to betray him. And just by Luxu reveling the MoM plan to Ava is a betrayal and Luxu had No Name on him when he told her. So in effect, the MoM already knows the possible plans Ava could have tried to come up with. Ava could also be the “true dandelion” Luxu sends to the future in UX

It’s so obvious. Ava is Kairi. Her pink hoodie has fox ears. Since she was slain by Xehanort during the keyblade war she didn’t summon with the rest of the foretellers. Then later on Sora rescues her heart with the power of waking and finds himself in Quadratum. Right where the book of prophecy leads to. It’ll be a huge shock when Kairi is revealed to be an ancient foreteller.

this is an incredibly solid theory, you've got me onboard with this and this is very refreshing since most people are recycling absolute absurdities like the next kh title is going to be a verum rex game because its an easy algorithm farm for their channels. Congratulations you are now my favourite KH content creator :D

HMK theorizes that the Black Box is like an actual black box, all data of the world's, hearts, events all backed up inside and with Kingdom Hearts, if it's opened, it basically resets everything back to the beginning. It does explain why events in certain are repeated and why Luxury is told never to open it. The data in Jiminy's journal was scary enough, imagine what could be done with the data inside the black box.

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After seeing some of Dark Road, I'm beginning to think Vor, Xehanort & Eraqus' classmate in Scala, is Kairi's grandma. A big hint here is their size... Both Vor & Kairi's grandma are extremely tiny, & Vor is hinted to be notably magically powerful. The ages line up too. Their faces are similar, & Vor reminds me of KH1 Kairi with a cheeky personality. This would also explain her grandma's detailed knowledge of the keyblade war & the various worlds. As to Ava, I do have a theory... We found out that upon their 'death', keyblade wielders of the past were given the option to either sleep, or become a brand new heart & live again. What if Ava, a master whose element of expertise was light, decided to become a new heart, & became... Kairi? We've already seen some possible hints that Ephemer may have become Sora. Given the rather cute interactions between Ephemer & Ava, thinking of them going on to become Sora & Kairi is a fun thought.

Yes. Mostly all of this. Hell I could add to it. The reason Luxu moved Subject X was so Ava could use Skuld as a vessel and become young for this meeting. Ava being Ava however, would vehemently oppose such a plan, and chooses to die of old age. 100% agree that this is what her choice is. Even the lore book can’t help but note how similar Skuld and Ava are. Disney movies also disgustingly back up this theory, such as Moana, whose Grandmother’s passing helped her development.

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4:15 One thing about Vanitas being a darkness though l must point out: While it makes PERFECT sense..... Darkness was still within Ventus when Vanitas wasn't. lf you recall when Sora first made his way inside Ventus heart in Re;Mind, Darkness spoke to Sora, even taking on a form and fighting him, despite Vanitas being his own entity. If this WAS Vanitas, it seems odd he wouldn't just... retake his form to combat Sora. Sora even thought Darkness was Vanitas at first. Don't get me wrong, l could be incorrect, l'm just opening more room for discussion

I don't think Ava is Kairi's grand mother. However I think Ava is the lost master in Lost Master Arc. We can account for all the masters from Union X except for her. I'm inclined to think Ava was knocked out and transported through the life boat. For me and this has been a more recent theory, I think there is a dark side of Kingdom Hearts where the blessing of the Light, aka magic/keyblades/so forth, does not exist. Instead they had to develop technology to grow which explains why Quadratum seems to be a technology based society while Destiny Islands has a magical, adventure may happen anytime type of feel. Strelitzia is dead and on the other side of Kingdom Hearts which passes the hearts of people back and forth. However, her and Sora have the strength of masters or stronger(another theory). She could have been there for a few hours before him or centuries, which I imagine we'll find out at the start of KH4.

But the master gave luxu the box before player character locking himself with the 4 darkness

I am not sure that I agree that our younger Keyblade Masters have the power to take out their hearts and put it into a new vessel. Or even if they have the power needed to do something like that they don't have the skill or knowledge. I think that after the Foretellers disappeared that the title of Master changed. From one who has mastered all that the Keyblade can do, or at lest mastered the basics with specialty. To something a lot more political. After all with maybe the exception of Brain after becoming Luxu's student, none of the other Dandelions had anyone to teach them all of the secrets of the Keyblade and thus would be unable to become true Masters of it knowing all the skills that a Keyblade can give. Masters like Mickey, Aqua, Riku, or characters that have the same power level and even skills as them like Terra, and Sora can not be true Masters. Not in the same way Luxu and the foretellers are. To much knowledge has been lost and honestly none of our characters have done anything that shows the same level of Skill and Mastery as what the Foretellers have shown. With maybe the exaction of Terra's Lingering Will which is a lot stronger then anything Terra has shown. And the Foretellers haven't really shown the same level of power as whatever destroyed the Badlands long before even Chi. Master has become a word used to describe who wielders are meant to look to for instruction either on the battlefield or as this person is ready to become a teacher way. Riku become a Master not because he has actually mastered anything but rather because they where about to go to war and Mickey needed someone other then himself to be a leader. Luxu has never respected Aqua as a Keyblade master, he has never even called her one. In BBS he outright calls her a Keyblade Wielder after he fights with her. The foretellers are going to look at the "Masters" of the present day story and they are going to laugh in our faces because none of them are actually masters. I think that the ability to put your heart into someone else body is something that Xehanort learned directly from either Luxu or MoM, and it is a long forgotten art. And that even Xehanort didn't know all that a true master needs to know about the Keyblade. I don't think any of our characters right now can stand up to any of the foretellers and win. Which Sora and Riku could have done with Xehanort. Xehanort himself might have been the closest we ever had to a True Master but he wasn't one. As for what I think Ava's mission was. I don't think it would have needed to be something as recent as KH3. It honestly could just be something that had long reaching affects. And Luxu didn't know what happened to her afterward. My personal thoughts on where Ava is, is that she is somewhere that she is unaffected by time. Either in a unchained state or in the realm of darkness guarding something, or even in Unreality watching whatever MoM is doing. She could have easily also abused the Power of Waking completing her mission but also not saving herself in time to meet with her friends. If that is the case then we even have another character in the same position as Sora who might be able to give us some clues as to how to save him. Although I will admit Ava is a possible person for being Kairi's Grandma I am nowhere close to thinking that is the most likely answer or the right one. Nor do I think Kairi is secretly Ava. Ava would not lower herself to having her every action, inaction, conversation, and thought be about a boy. Kairi is a girl with a crush, Ava is a woman with a mission and the will to see it through to the end. It would greatly hurt Ava's character for her to pretend to be Kairi this whole time, also I think we would have gotten some clues about it in KHMOM if they where the same person. When they were looking through Kairi's heart for a year.

So my question is, if vanitas was pure darkness why was he so accepting of his defeat?

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Translation: I told her what I'm about to do to all of you. Jesus that is scary.

Love the fact you caught me up to speed on this theory in the beginning of the video. You’re a legend 💯👏🏽👏🏽

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So, this sort of falls into a theory I heard recently. Ava carried out her role with the Dandelions, that's fine. But clearly she had another goal after that, likely sme way to disrupt fate, and someone likely wasn't okay with that, and that someone had to take care of it. As for who is unclear, but Luxu implies he knows or was there when it happened. As Luxu states, she carried out her role and looked up as if he knew she was dead or gone somehow, possibly implying he saw something that Ava was having to fight, but left before seeing the result. Well the theory implies that Ava is the Lich Heartless at the end of KH3, gathering the hearts of the strongest lights as she was meant to do before. My guess is Luxu is the one who offer her into becoming said Heartless. And with Heartless, come Nobodies, and the KHUX Dark Roads showed us Skuld is Xehanort's mother, more or less proving she isn't Subject X. My guess is Ava's Nobody is Subject X based almost solely off these points, and the fact that Ava is otherwise unaccounted for, only known to have done what she needed to do, and isn't available to show up with the rest of the Foretellers.