Corruption or Efficiency? The Story of the Tie Fighter Program
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Published 2024-07-28
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All Comments (21)
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GT from the bottom of my heart don’t stop making these kinds of videos. This is the kind of unique and different Star Wars content I look for these days. You aren’t just milking the Acolyte still like some are but you enjoy being different with your kind of content. We need more of it! Never thought in the year 2024 I see a video about starship economics.
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One could only imagine how insanely wealthy the twin engine design would have made Sienar Fleet Systems had the Empire not risen to power, nationalized and forced the company to focus their attention towards the production of starfighters over commercial vessels. The fact that this revolutionary engine design not only requires less maintenance but is also capable of being powered with just solar panels. That alone would have been a game changer for the freight shipping market.
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When you have a monopoly on fighter production there's gonna be some corruption
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He went back to his room on Alderaan. Good for you, Allen
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Ironically, TIE’s not having shields was an EU thing, created by West End Games in their Star Wars RPG as a way to allow Rebel players to kill Empire NPC’s while not being as fragile themselves. This got into other EU works as well as official lore.
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I’ve always loved the TIE Fighter, even from a young age. Watching episode IV, I loved the shape, the speed and of course the iconic scream that it had.
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They managed to avoid total Imperial Takeover by simply doing EVERYTHING the Emperor demanded of them.
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What the hell? Star wars cannon goes so deep they get into the shareholders take on the Tie fighter.
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Listening to this is like listening to the actual story of a real company. It's so realistic
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The Grand Moff Tarkin was rumored to have had substantial investments in the Kuat Drive Yards. A more detailed investigation into his investments could answer some questions
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I like how your video are often worded in a way that can reflect the real world like the problems with unchecked political power and governing systems based on camaraderie instead of merits.
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I’ll invest in Sienar not because of its TIE fighter per se but because it also has shuttles and transports used by the military and civilians alike. Also like Incom and Koensayr they can maintain relevance just by reselling parts from the Core to the Outer Rim
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Why does a TIE fighter cry in space? It wants its Mothership.
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“Palpatine is a deal maker like Nancy Pelosi or Mitch McConnell” Why did you have to do Palpatine dirty like that?
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The biggest counter to the Cost Efficency argument for Tie Fighters is the Y-Wing, both cost 60k. A new Y-Wing variant with Twin Ion Engines would be low cost due to reduced R&D and infrastructure cost plus heavy weapons, shields and hyperdrive are a big perk. Even the busted up Rebellion Y-Wings worth 30k have really good odds 1v1 with a Tie.
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I'm a bit surprised that Sienar didn't license their design to other companies, so they could also produce the empire's standard fighter. An example from modern day Earth is the AK-47 assault rifle, which was licensed to many companies throughout the soviet union precisely to meet demand across the various satellite states and proxy wars with NATO.
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@GenerationTech With all that economic videos on Star Wars lore will we ever hear an answer to my personally biggest question on Star Wars corps: what the heck Kuat produced since Ruusan reformation and for the next thousand years?! They are same, if not bigger, sized as Corellia, and specialized in military production. Yet all the peace time they didn't even produced Dreadnaught-class, it was Rendili - build...
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WWII in space again. Before watching the vid: It could be both. The BF-109 kept on being made because the factories that made it kept on getting better and better at it. So switching to a different fighter which didn't have the inherent limitations of the BF-109 (as big an engine in as small a plane as practical) would have meant falling behind in the short term. That's the legit efficiency part. The corruption would have involved trying to keep profit margins as high as possible by advocating for a doctrine demanding many small, cheap fighters.
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I feel like A New Hope depicted the TIE fighters and their pilots to be outstanding and the lack of shields didn't seem to matter so much since they pretty much got one-shot-kills against the Alliance fighter bombers, regardless of of the hits were generally tail-chase and the Rebels switched their deflectors "double front." The pro and con rationalizing seems more of a sensible ret-con to make the X Wing in particular live up to the hype of it being so cool looking. By Return of the Jedi the Empire seemed more bumbling and weak, and while the TIE fighter and interceptor weren't depicted as garbage, they seemed to have a bit more of a cannon fodder for the plot's good guys role. In the old MS DOS TIE Fighter Lucas Arts game, the Tie fighter had incredible performance compared to the X Wing but it was very fragile unless you fiddled with game options to make yourself invincible. The TIE Interceptor was in my opinion way overpowered against the X Wing performance wise, but again weak armor. But then the TIE Advanced and Defender were just ridiculously superior vehicles. One fun thing to do in the game is that in some missions, you can load up your Defender with space bombs or protons or concussions and take out your own corvette mothership, then an ISD hyperspaces in and the narrator says "destroying your ship was not wise." Then the computer sends wave after wave of Tie Bombers (for some reason) to attack you, and it's fun shooting down your own ships 😂
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It’s such a crazy idea to me that a company with a highly bureaucratic structure not unlike many of the companies we see today can last so long that it spans a length of time that could connect ancient Egypt to the modern era… you discuss a formidable star ship design the company produced a whopping 4 thousand years before it engineered the very first TIE fighter. That’s so much galactic history that it just makes many events feel insignificant until the galaxy experiences something like the hyperspace disaster during the high republic era that changes everything. It’s like the changes Europe went through before, during, and after Rome.