Wasted Opportunity: AMD Ryzen 7 9700X CPU Review & Benchmarks vs. 7800X3D, 7700X, & More

Reminder: The 7800X3D remains more efficient than the 9700X in gaming by a long shot. Higher performance, same power. Also, we got the new 9600X in. It is working where the other one failed, but still has compatibility issues (as the 9700X did) that the 7000 series did not. Messy launch. We have brand new red, green, and yellow solder & project mats joining our existing blue! Support our testing directly by buying one! store.gamersnexus.net/products/gn-project-solderin… (use code THISISFINE for 10% off until August 14! Learn about Intel's issues here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6vQlvefGxk Or watch our R7 3700X & R5 3600 revisit here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRK30P9_Tvg

2024 really is becoming the year of "It's not [Awful brand]".

It honestly feels like X3D is like AMD's 1080Ti. After almost 3 years, still fast, still powerful, still efficient, and still dominating.

As Administrator for Schools, the 9700X and 7700X are great, realy great. Have a Computerlab with 25 PC's and have your Media Guys have their training. We have problems keeping the room cool and getting the power in. 88 Watts vs 181 Watts for nearly the same performance is a real bonus for us.

This power draw reduction is going to be insane for SFF builds.

7800X3D is still such a great investment. At this point I'm only ever going to wait for the X3D processors.

It's clear that for x3d owners, the only upgrades are newer x3d chip

Honestly, given how much both CPUs and GPUs have just been cranking the power consumption to absolute insane levels, seeing a CPU go more the power efficiency route is seriously refreshing. Hope this will continue as a trend to make things more reasonable again, and if that means sacrificing some peformance that's honestly fine.

This feels like throw back to AMD's 6800xt/7800xt situation. 7800xt had a very minor performance improvement, but lowered power consumption overall. While not mind blowing, I'll take small steps in the right direction over "one step forwards, two steps back" anyday.

Steve's RTS APM coming in clutch with sniping these bots. Thanks Steve

17:17 The entire Intel lineup right now is a giant cluster... Gold

Thank you for including the AMD Ryzen 5 1600 CPU! It helps immensely seeing the differences. And also to choose the next upgrade (for my AM4 motherboard). I built my AM4 Ryzen PC in 2017. The year when the first Ryzen generation came out. And now it's crazy to think that on the same motherboard, thanks to Bios updates, i can install even an AMD R7 5800X3D (8c/16t) or even an AMD R9 5950X (16c/32t). With performance not far off from the latest high-end CPUs!

Something that I don't think gets enough recognition is that for people with sensory issues, such an efficiency improvement is stellar. I can't do high fan speeds or too much whirring noises, so lower power parts with lower heat outputs are ideal. I would absolutely select a more expensive part with the same performance simply for that softer fan curve. For many of us, there's a lot more to consider than big number good. Efficiency is far more valuable to me.

WE DID IT!!! WE HAVE OVER 9000 AMD CPUs!!! Now wait for next gen to be called Ryzen Prime 1000 AIX series because AMD marketing

Every time there is a new CPU review, I am in awe of what an amazing processer the 5800X3D is, mainly its ability to breathe new life into old PC's. The fact that my 7-year-old PC with a 5800X3D can hang with some of the newest and greatest intel chips, all while using an old motherboard, inexpensive DDR4 memory, under 100watts of power AND running cool enough to only need a small inexpensive cooler never fails to put a smile on my face.

First time I have completely disagreed with Steve's take. Same price, same performance, 30+% less power is huge. We've been creeping up every generation on temps, and this is a great way to reset that. Those that want to go max performance can mess with PBO, get 20% more performance, and everybody else can enjoy a part that isn't a space heater.

The power consumption reduction while performing insanely well is mostly the point of these new, non-x3d chips. I find them quite attractive for servers. Especially since the better performing (and insanely hot + power hungry) alternatives tend to blow up... or corrode. Every product has it's niché, and clearly these are not their niché. I feel like they were under-represented. Definitely getting one for my at home servers.

"May include blue screens" feel the burn, son

While I value GamersNexus hardware reviews, I have the impression that this specific review undersells a bit the massive efficiency gains that AMD achieved with its new generation which translate into improved thermals. As per your video a standard 9700X reaches 50-52°C, while a standard 7700X reaches 92°C. You then argue, that this 40°C difference is not real, given that AMD changed its thermal sensors (fair enough, the impact of this is difficult to understand) but even more so, given that the power consumption in the 9700X is much lower. You then restrict the 7700X to 86W to match the 9700X and the thermals improve for the 7700X to 59°C. You argue that this is still a notable difference compared to the 50-52°C of the 9900X but not as impressive as the 40°C we saw before, which you argue are not real. This argument appears flawed partially - if you compare the thermals of the 7700X at 86W with the standard 9700X you would also need to compare the performance of the two chips at these power levels. Instead, the performance tests for the 7700X are done without the power limit. Now, you could argue, that this is what the consumer ultimately sees: it is unlikely that they will limit the power available to the 7700X they bought in real life. And this argument would be sound. But that also means, that the 40°C difference (minus the impact of the changed thermal sensor) between the 7700X and the 9700X holds. A 40°C difference in thermals implies also a massive difference in cooling and associated noise levels. Based on the performance metrics that you show, you could build a system with a 9700X with a similar or slightly higher performance than a 7700X, but which runs much much (!) quieter, maybe even silent (?). I think that is impressive.

Honestly as someone who lives in a desert in California with outrageous energy costs, that performance at 80 watts at those temperatures 🤷‍♂️ if they iron out the bugs I’m in