LISA: Definitive Edition - Buddy's Dream (EPILEPSY WARNING)

A guide to unlock the new content in Joyful! 1.) Defeat all of the warlords on The List without using Joy. 2.) Go to the fence left of The List, and enter into a secret passage. Go behind yet another fence to find another secret area - go to the flower in this area, and open your menu. 3.) Destroy the statues in this order: Sticky, Buzzo, Rando, Brad, Marty, Yado, The Mother's (on both sides), Lisa. 4.) Gather nine items: Blue Key: Obtained by interacting with all of the rocks in Big Lincoln's area, and then entering a secret passageway in the wall of the room he is encountered in. Stitches: Obtained by interacting with the corpse found at the end of Dice Mahone's area several times. Ceremonial Sword: Obtained by jumping left immediately after entering Mr. Beautiful's area and opening the locked doorway with the Blue Key. Incomplete Hand: Obtained by using the Ceremonial Sword on the middle finger statue. Goldfish: Obtained by waiting in the first room of Lardy Hernandez's area. Tiny Picture: Obtained in the area located behind the fence left of The List. Garden Gloves: Obtained in the area where one finds the flower to enter the statue area. Clean Water: Obtained by using the Warlord Skill "Supply Chain" in battle at random. If you've defeated all of the named enemies, an infinite random encounter with a Shadowy Figure can be found in the area that the Tiny Picture is located. Ipecac: Obtained by talking to Larry Stintz whilst wearing the Hint Mask. 5.) Place these items on the statues in this order: Garden Gloves, Clean Water, Blue Key, Stiches, Ipecac, Sheath, Goldfish, Tiny Picture, Incomplete Hand. 6.) Go to The List - there will be a door. Complete this section to obtain the Nipple. 7.) Go to Green's House and obtain the Joy Mask. Use the Joy Mask to enter the Joy Lab, where you will find Lisa's coffin. Go to the left of the coffin, into the wall. 8. Finish the game as normal. Thank you to Marmo for collecting much of this information!

Fifteen minutes in, and one of the things that broke me the most so far is the young Brads running around outside the house. With makeup on their faces. God, once again, the parallel between Buddy and Lisa, putting makeup on him, which he is happy about, it's like a stab in the gut.

Rando's final speech is incredibly sweet. He really deserved better, but still gave it everything he had.

I love how they changed Buzzonin the end, how they made him the true villain and how Buddy realized how much Brad loved her.

So sticky really did regret selling out buddy, but Rick didn't. Guess we know more than we would have before. Man Sticky actually being remorseful, even through it all, that boss fight hallucination was right. Even he has regrets.

I really think the true end is symbolic ::to represent how in the End Buddy find peace and how in the future she decide to be loving for her future child .. and maybe herself

Just when I thought this game couldn't get any deeper. That new dialogue between Buddy and Buzzo was especially surprising.

"Okay, so for the symbolic figure of an angel hugging a child, let's use Mrs. Armstrong, the woman who never hugged her son"

The funny thing about weeds is that they tell you what the soil is lacking. Deep compacted soil can grow dandelions very easily aerated soil does not. Grass that invades your garden can be suppressed with enough shade from established plants, or a layer of mulch to prevent them from getting to the surface to begin with. Before roots can ever begin to establish, you need healthy soil to begin with. A solid foundation to build your stance upon. Without it, it will always be a struggle to gain footing whether it be in gardening or in life.

I really like the ending dialogue here, it's very much a father who is stern but loving. Never being soft but wanting to teach Buddy. Brad did some horrid things sure, but the lines here does a good job at showing that he never hide his personality to buddy

Damn Buddy saying that line, being what turns Buzzo kinda hits different.

I dont get much about the ending but i am glad for what i do get, on my playthru i did the 9 spirits fight without attacking, which, ended up echoing what Dusty said about self defense, a change of heart in Buddy of sorts, laying down her weapon and instead doing something much harder than killing and destroying, creating and nurturing I like to interpret it as the older woman being Buddy, living to old age and doing her part in restoring the world much more significantly than crapping out babies like the Rando army probably would have her do, without actually changing anything else about the world (Her huge size is probably not meant to be literal lol)

Deep down Buddy knew that her uncles were traitors /Rick was always jealous of brad , in the end you can see that (with Budy eyes) that he gggot remorses and feel bad , but his ego is so fragile that he can't take acountability ... the others ones recgonizes they were not better thant Brad and were also selfish

Honestly while I'm glad Buzzfu*k got less of a happy ending, I think he's only the third (maybe fourth) worst character in the series, because obviously I feel like Yado and Mary were the "source" of all the pain and Buzzo, and Brad took that pain and were unable to move on. I wish Buddy had a moment where she realized that Marty was also at fault, because she never learned the awful stuff he did. Ironically, even though Brad was never able to move on, he raised Dustin and Buddy who were the only Armstrong's that could

I kinda think that the ending is all situated abound that small item, the Child Skull. I think it represents three things; 1. Buddy and her broken mind 2. Buddy needing to have an open mind. 3. Lisa; as everything else is in this fuckin game. 1) We see that Buddy is… fundamentally pretty broken. Atleast in this ending. She seems to be unable to actually feel remorse. Instead, she is almost psychopathic. She knows only the truth but has a hard time understanding emotions. We even see that in the final text. Buddy is VERY cold with Brad. Even hateful. She seems to be able to feel, but not able to empathize, hence her crying starting because she feels sad and it being stopped by Brad giving her what she wants instead of appealing to emotions. My theory? Yado performed brain surgery on Buddy. Took out just a bit. Just enough that once she got a taste of this post apocalyptic wasteland, she would be MORE then ready to destroy it. That’s why the skull looks like Buddy. 2) Buddy needs to have an open mind. Which is what we see in the ending. Buddy being so big is most likely either perspective or symbolism- but I think the baby in the pink is supposed to be buddy’s child, and Buddy is the almost holy figure in the blue robes. Buddy gains an open mind, open enough to realize that violence is a tool, not a solution. So she uses violence to keep others in line and keep others safe. Then she has an open mind enough to have sex with a man, having a child. Atleast one, probably many if she can. Again, she may not LIKE it, but she has enough of an open mind to give the world a second chance. That’s why the skull looks like Buddy. 3)Lisa. It’s Lisa’s skull. We know that Lisa looks a LOT like Buddy. Black hair, similar build, similar face before Buddy got hers messed up… and we know that Lisa WAS a very angry person. Or atleast very violent. But not enough to actually do anything. That’s why Buzzo is so important; he is her enabler. Giving her a tool to actually ENACT her hatred onto things. I think Buddy was right. If Buzzo had never met Lisa, then Lisa might have grown? Or atleast wouldn’t have gotten worse. Lisa was the spark, and Buzzo was the tinder. Neither is Fire without the other. ANYWAY- we know Lisa hung herself, but we also know that Marty was INCREDIBLY abusive, and hit Brad a whole lot. Who’s not to say he hit her on the head? This one isn’t really that big of a point… but what I think is… is that with the skull in your inventory, Buzzo can’t hear Lisa. Like, now that you have her skull, YOU have her soul with you. And because of all of that… That’s why the skull looks like Buddy.

Rick talks alot of shit for being like STOP PLEASE DONT HURT HIM near the end of painful

Buddy roasting buzzo was so fucking good.

Loving the new content, enjoying the game, then He Is My Dad starts to play... It doesn't stop hurting.

33:39 Ohhhhhhhh! Daaaaaaaamn!

I heard that Pointless and Hopeful are considered canon in the LISA universe, according to Austin Jorgensen himself. They were originally fan games, but I guess now they are part of the franchise.