Why Tekken's Evo Champion Switched to Controller

I have used the Hori Octa for about 3 years now. The Octa was originally designed for the analog stick to replace the digital pad as it has an octagonal gate (kind of like the Gamecube controller) hence the name. The dpad has problems with diagonal inputs due largely to the fact that the rubber contact pads are to large on the cardinal directions, they added a toggle in software that linearly ramps diagonal input sensitivity up to make it feel consistent. You still need to press harder than most dpads in any case. I made a mod (requires a 3d printer and disassembly) that fixes it physically you could also use card stock paper cut to size. Some other issues with the Hori Octa is that the dpad and analog stick are too close together and people with larger hands will collide with the analog housing rim when doing qcf movements for example. It has no right analog stick but L3 and R3 are default mapped to left shoulder and left trigger. The UWP app is hardly functional and has only ever received 1 update it can be fully controlled with the controller though when applying settings that functionality disappears, I would recommend using ReWASD for any changes you want to make HID's.

What's really cool is that it still has the 6 face buttons for players who play CLAW style. I've always seen players who play claw on a regular ds4 or ds5 and found it to look uncomfortable so this 6 face button style seems more comfortable.

I just bought a leverless and bro just said its not good for tekken movement. fuck my life.

i've been using the octa forever, the pad and buttons on it are GOATED. Highly recommend for anyone on or wanting to use pad

I also use the Hori Fighting Commander Octa and it's a fantastic controller. One very important word of advice though if you play claw and got big fingertips: the buttons are very sensitive and close to each other so fat finger accidents will happen if your fingers are laid sort of horizontally over the buttons, get in the habit of having your fingers more in an upright position over the buttons instead to minimize this issue. Lost a few games in the clutch turning 1 or 2 inputs into 1+3 or 2+4 because of that, even had a game where I downright looked super stupid inputting a ki charge when I went for a 1+2 input.

Remember controllers don’t matter much in the long run, it’s all about how comfortable you are. MD Luffy won a SF4 evo title with a ps2 controller. Initial D won a guilty gear tournament with a fucking steering wheel

9:30 it completely checks out the new hardware thing, I come from playing a lot with my xbox controller and recently a friend gifted me a dualsense controller, I feel like im learning again with Reina, I have the theory and character knowledge, but that small change of position of the Dpad is really making me to learn again.

Phi actually made good lookin costume With shoes?!

I have recently bought and trying out the Hori Tekken Version Pad for PC, it is lighter than a normal pad. The button mapping is useful to set the default to the PS4/5/X box pad default setting, then work from there. As the default of the Hori button position is kind of strange for like the RB and RT, the 4 buttons on both top sides are also kind of off and different from a normal pad due to the extra 2 buttons on the front. In addition, you need the button mapping to switch off the default auto LSB on that is add to the stick button. I remap the 4 front buttons closer to the right side which is more like the normal feel of a normal pad, then the extra 2 buttons in front which are closer to the middle, I map as L3 and R3. Which are normally I use as 1+4 and 2+3 (Heat) during button setting in game. I technically use all of the 10 buttons of this pad in button setting in the game.

i think most pros arent using leverless simply because theres no point switching out of what theyre comfortable with. however, devilster plays leverless and moves like a god, so i dont subscribe to the thought of leverless being bad for movement

my biggest deciding factor in pad is if the dpad clicks or if it feels like im pressing on a pillow. The xbox elite controller is one i like alot cuz thin and "webbed" dpad that feels very satisfying and responsive to press.

What a coincidence, I just ordered a Hori octa tekken edition yesterday. Excellent timing on your part.

At evo japan they were testing the hori octa with a different dpad so they're fixing the dpad issue

I'm a Reina main on the same controller (Hori Octa) and honestly wavedashing is pretty easy. The main challenge is getting electrics as down-forward isn't as directly accessible as something like leverless, so lining up the just frame with an attack button can be tricky.

They need to make an update to the controller and prioritize the diagonals inputs more. I feel that the window of the diagonals is too narrow

Thank god Spero Gin didn't win Evo Japan

I use an 8bitdo Sega Genesis 6 button pad that has 4 shoulder buttons for the XBox. For one it's much easier for me to do inputs on that pad. Two, for Steven I have the far right face buttons act as LP+RP and LK+RK which the two right shoulder buttons mimic. The left shoulders are for heat and rage. Some friends think my playstyle is somewhat odd because I play with thumb on the face buttons and don't understand how I'm able to do combos off of that or harder stuff because I'm literally using my thumb to press the buttons. But, it works.

I had to return mine 3 time to get one that registers diagonal inputs. But once you get a functioning one it’s good

Thank you for this video. I was thinking for a while to get that pad. Would be good if you could make another video when you get used to it. Thanks as always sir 🙏🏽

i would definitely recommend betop beitong c3 pad, cause it has diamond shape pad which is super useful df, db, uf, ub movements and it has 6 button layout as well