How Moneyball RUINED the Oakland A's
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Published 2024-06-22
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'Moneyball' was always exaggerated. The main reason the As were good in the early noughts was that 3 days out of 5 they could send an ace pitcher to the mound. Acquiring Hudson, Mulder and Zito wasn't a product of Moneyball, it was mainly luck.
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Nice analysis. The secret to "moneyball" is and always was developing your own players. There was a tiny window in which Oakland was using better stats to evaluate players, but if it didn't coincide with elite young talent emerging from their farm system, it wouldn't have meant a thing.
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The A's 'invented' Moneyball, never won a World Series with it, watched other teams take it farther than they could, and simply decided to consider the postseason failures as an 'inconvenience'. If you, at some point, don't get angry with incessant ALCS Game 5 losses, then you're a failure.
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The A’s version of moneyball will never win titles. Their player evaluation is fine, but when they discourage things like stolen bases and bunting they run into trouble against playoff caliber pitching. If I’m playing 3B I never have to worry about fielding a bunt and can take a couple steps back. Walks are great, but with a RISP and two outs, you need a hit. Their strategy gets them lots of regular season wins, but crumbles against great postseason pitching.
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Went on to "enhance" his workout routines had me dying lol
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The Moneyball Movie: "The 2002 A's won 103 games because Scott Hatteberg walked and Chad Bradford threw weird!" MVP Miguel Tejada and CY Young winner Barry Zito, plus Tim Hudson and Mark Mulder: "We helped a little." Why don't more teams imitate the 2010-2014 "even-year" Giants? It's not like they bought those teams. Well, they did give Zito that big deal (ironically), but he was awful for them. And unless he also slugs, why would a hitter with a low average draw a ton of walks and have a high OBP? They're not going to pitch around him. Eddie Yost was the only guy I can think of who could consistently just walk despite not hitting for average or power.
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Moneyball didn't "ruin" Oakland, but was a tactic Billy Beane had to use because ownership didn't want to spend money.
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It took awhile but Moneyball really changed baseball If you stopped following around 2004 and just got back into it today youd be overwhelmed by all the numbers Also still can't get used to watching power hitters bat leadoff or number 2 There were some things you didn't think would ever change because they didn't like a century
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The problem with any Moneyball strategy is that even if it works initially, richer teams will eventually adopt the same system and do it better due to having more working capital.
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this is an amazing video man, love this format and storytelling please post more of these!!
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Well, technically, the ownership is why the A's were ruined. But, I await to see what you gotta say
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1:50 Mark McGwire "... went on to enhance his workout program..." 🤣🤣
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Sadly, they've also not raised the team payroll in nearly 20 years and their richest contract is still Chavez back in the mid-2000's... I think Fisher now is just looking to move.. just to move. Oakland fans supported the team while they tried but they haven't tried in 8 years or more now.
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Really nice vid keep up the good work!!!!
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The goal of every front office should be to win the world series. Not increase valuation.
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love this content bruh keep it up!
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Great video.
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The movie was garbage and did a hatchet job on Art Howe, a class guy and solid baseball man.
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David Justice wasn’t a free agent signing.
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I’ve been a life long A’s fan, and I will love them forever, but f*ck John Fisher