Tools to BOOST IMMUNITY & PREVENT DISEASE w/ Robynne Chutkan, MD | Rich Roll Podcast

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Published 2022-10-31
Gut health expert Robynne Chutkan, MD, shares ways we can optimize our microbiome to bolster our immune system, reduce inflammation, shield against viruses, and protect our health. To read more about Robynne and peruse the full show notes, go here👉🏾bit.ly/richroll714
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00:00 - Intro
00:02:35 - Robynne returns – seven years ago!!
00:10:00 - Let's Define Our Terms - Gut Health and the Immune System
00:21:34 - Germ theory vs terrain theory
00:29:24 - Dysbiosis explained, risk factors with COVID, how stomach acid plays a role, PPI
00:41:40 - NSAIDs, how they affect the gut
00:47:14 - Hormone therapies / birth control effects on the gut
00:51:36 - The purpose for mucus & relationship with the gut
00:59:30 - What about fevers? Thermal therapy
01:06:25 - Difference of putting acute stress vs chronic stress on the body
01:10:24 - Food & diet: short chain fatty acids
01:15:03 - Carnivore diet - do we need fiber?
01:16:42 - 'Alisha' patient story
01:19:05 - Sleep & the gut
01:24:39 - Disassociation in the Medical system - acute care vs preventative care
01:31:15 - Obesity - a public health crisis?
01:36:28 - The Open Air Factor - get time outside
01:41:58 - What has public health learned since the pandemic?
01:48:06 - Any downsides with Paxlovid prescription?
01:49:53 - What to look out for with consumer products? Cleaning habits?
01:55:05 - Long COVID - what we know & how it relates to the gut
02:02:03 - Fecal transplants
02:09:36 - Robynne's Desire to Empower Readers
02:11:05 - Advice for seeking treatment for a gut issue
02:14:58 - Closing remarks

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All Comments (21)
  • @margarett923
    My husband works outside all day everyday all year long and he has the strongest immune system I've ever seen and I've always told him I know it's because you're outside all day working in the dirt. He's also one of the most care free people I've ever met
  • Really enjoyed listening to Dr. Chutkan. I am a licensed Naturopathic Doctor practicing in Washington state - this is something I was taught in naturopathic medical school way back in early 2001. Innate immunity, the benefits of fever, not suppressing coughs, hydrotherapy, heat and cold therapies, fresh air, sunshine, that "disease begins in the gut" - I absolutely loved this discussion, and will be sharing it widely. I can't wait to read her new book!
  • I have multiple autoimmune diseases - some pretty nasty ones like lichen planus & RA, and so many more. I no longer take medications and immunosuppressants. My medicine is food, sunshine, forest bathing an hour every day in the woods near my house, and weightlifting. No processed food enters my mouth with the exception of a glass of wine. When i fall off the wagon during holidays all my symptoms come back but i can cure them within 2-3 days of my usual routine❤
  • @Kevin-zh5ho
    Wonderful interview. Dr. Chutkan speaks so effortlessly and clearly for everyone to understand the importance of gut health. I can never get enough on the gut microbiome and our immune health. Thank you as always Rich!
  • I tell my family this information and they can't believe it. I'm a functional medicine health coach and have learned so much about the gut health. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
  • @Joseph1NJ
    It's so great that she still has a clinical practice. So many 'celebrity doctors' abandon their practices for self promotion; social media, book deals, speaking deals, and/or selling supplements. Not that what they do doesn't have value, it's just not as valuable.
  • @panes840
    This was excellent. I will purchase her book. I would query her stance about HRT, though because its a specialist area and as I understand it we are all living longer and it's because we are living longer (because of science) women are living 30 years plus without estrogen and otherstone essential hormones essential for heart, bone, and brain health. There is no association found that estrogen causes breast cancer but it can certainly drive it!! But women forget that they live for years and years and years consuming excess estrogen via mammalian estrogen excess (think animal products e.g.dairy) excess cholesterol too has its biochemistry connection with estrogen production but its hardly talked about and xenoestrogens from the environment wreak havoc as they mimic estrogen. So lots and lots of estrogen excess way before menopause so no wonder the system suffers. . So we all panic about putting a natural hormone back, yet thyroid hormones and pancreatic hormones such as insulin is ok to put back into the body and manage well but HRT still got this bad marketing just like soya did. Its ridiculous. Sorry guys but I've spent 8 years looking into all of this and after reading the book Estrogen Matters and listening to Louise Newson here in the UK and Menopause Taylor in the US its clear estrogen via HRT is not the enemy. The science is there. So is this Lady wrong? Absolutely not, but it's looking at only one mechanism without her biochemically it interacts with another. The wonderful Dr T. Colin Campbell has said this over and over and over . Reductionism has its place, but we have to be very careful with it. "Rich, please get the authors of the book, "Estrogen Matters" on and Dr Louise Newson. Newson is fighting for women in the UK and across the globe." Other than that, great interview. Clever lady.
  • I've been a loyal viewer of this podcast for a while now and i'm fascinated with the range of topics you've covered and educated us on so grateful for the great work you do. Your faithful Canadian viewer !
  • Best episode I've watched. I learned so so much from this episode. The mucus section blew me away. I didn't want the episode to end. Thanks for producing such a good episode and inviting a wonderful guest
  • I feel that Carbs are thought as bad because health doctors fail to help people underdstand the difference berween healthy plant carbs and highly processed carbs. Thanks for all the info you share in your podcasts. Vimala storey, UK
  • @AJ-kp6yj
    Amazing information. She has a way of explaining complex topic(s) in an effortless manner while engaging the listener. Incredibly informative & fascinating!! Thank you!! 💕
  • I never believed grains such as organic, steel cut oats were bad however after taking( my own) blood sugar readings regularly for a few mths, I found many grains spiked BSLs and they remained high even 2-4 hrs later. This is why many don't like high carbs. Thank you for a very detailed podcast. Nice to see a doctor that promotes real health. I worked as a nurse in a hospital for 16 years and many health care staff are obese or seriously overweight Many pts use PPIs ( for years) and take multiple prescription drugs daily.
  • Thank you for this interview and information. She communicates so clearly. So grateful for this episode.
  • @DorianneBurke
    Thank you for such an informative discussion; I am an RN with a BSN enrolled in a master's program for Integrative Health and Wellness. This program is for medical professionals and has an emphasis on health coaching. I mention this to let you know that RNs are joining this lifestyle change/ preventative medicine movement, and we are specifically trained in chronic disease management. I am excited to be a part of the changes in healthcare!! I have been learning so much from your discussions...Please keep them coming!
  • @sandybayes
    I've just started becoming aware how essential our gut microbiome is and its role in protecting us. Dr Chutkan clearly explained enough to convince me to buy her book. Thank you for interviewing her.
  • @ziaway1561
    Great conversation! I’m a physician assistant and I contracted salmonella 4 years ago. I’m fascinated in the new studies of the microbiome. My gut changed so radically after acute illness, not only gut issues with N/V/D frequently, but the initiation into autoimmunity world. I know I carry one gene for celiac dz, but I am now sensitive to many foods. I have acquired psoriatic arthritis that hit me like a train. I am doing better as I continue to take butyrate, akermansia and an expensive new JAK inhibitor. Of course I’m taking more supplements as well, but I will not give up on trying to heal my gut. What we eat is so important as is what we shouldn’t eat. We don’t change overnight. I’m grateful I can pass on new knowledge to my patients! Thank you for this podcast! ❤
  • Regarding diets like carnivore, I think of it as a continuum of trigger elimination. You can eliminate one possible trigger (ex. gluten), you can eliminate any and all possible triggers (ex. carnivore), or you can land somewhere in between (ex. paleo). It makes sense on some level, and it might alleviate inflammation for a short period of time, but the elephant in the room is that doing so is not solving/treating the actual problem. It's a bandaid, at best. You need to examine your situation and ask why you've lost tolerance to carbs/grains/fiber/fodmaps/histamine/oxalate/whatever instead of inducing malnutrition to this degree. This interview was jam-packed with great, actionable info! I'll definitely check out her book :)
  • This may be the BEST most informative interviews I have ever watched. Both people are so educated and great together. The many topics covered hit home with me. Family and friends that I will share this with spread this valuable information.
  • @lesadelisi9385
    Add “Earthing” to forest bathing! The amazing results of having your bare feet grounding your system is out of this world. Also, carefully run your fingers along the underside of fern leaves and then inhale the air on your fingers. Ferns have some of the oldest, healthiest microbiome boosting properties in nature.
  • Thank you for your videos. Most helpful. When my mother had the first rash from shingles, I was heavily into research on nature remedies. There was little help available at that time. I had a book on Swedish Bitters. I applied the bitters topically to the rash and the rash disappeared within a few days. She was also informed she should have a treatment to prevent the recurrence of the virus. At that time it was either ultra-sound or the chiropractor. The virus never recurred. She used to get a lot of cold sores before that as well. I’d be interested in your thoughts. I still always have a bottle of Swedish bitters in the fridge on hand. I’m 77 years old.😊Thanks again.