Tamil Is Not The Oldest Language In The World (Part 2) - More Proofs and Straight Facts!

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Of course Tamil is not the oldest language, pretty sure cavemen didn't speak Tamil, the language is just too complex, but it one of the oldest which is still used.

Tamil is THE oldest language!

Valmiki Ramayana States "Tam abhyabhāṣa saumitre sugrīva sācivam kapim vākyajñam madhuraiḥ vākyaiḥ sneha yuktam arindama" Rama says, ‘Lakshmana, you talk to this minister of Sugreeva having the knowledge of Madhura Vaakyam (bhasha). This destroyer of enemy has come for friendship.” Translating Madhurai Vaakyai as above is more suitable than using sweet or pleasant words for the same. There Hanuman sees Sita and wants to speak to her. But he gets into a dilemma as to which language he must speak to her. If he speaks in Sanskrit, Sita would suspect how a vanara could speak Sanskrit. She would think that it is Ravana in the guise of a vanara trying to lure her. So Sanskrit is not helpful in that context. Therefore he decides to speak in the language of the common man. The first inference from this is that this language must have had widespread presence in India at that time. It is because it was known to Hanuman, a resident of the forest area in south India and also known to Sita as well who hailed from Videha (somewhere in or near Nepal) and lived a Royal life in Ayodhya. The persons involved here are a minister (Hanuman) and a princess (Sita). For them to have known a common language other than Sanskrit, it means then that it must have been a popular language which everyone – from ordinary people to Royals – must have known. Or it must have been a language that people would have aped to learn or a language spoken all over India at that time. This means that there existed a language other than Sanskrit which was known to dignitaries like ministers and princesses hailing from totally different parts of India. That language must have had a name and Valmiki must have certainly indicated the name of that language in his Epic. Suppose that language is spoken in the Epic only in the Ashoka vana scene, then there is every chance that Valmiki had mentioned that name in that scene. But we don’t seem to get across the name of a language that we are familiar with at present. Or else the name must have been there (in the Ashoka vana scene), and we are missing it. This is possible only if the name has a meaning that escapes our attention - something like we have been saying – Madhuram. We miss out this name interpreting Madhuram vaakyam as sweet word and not the language called Madhuram. But why then Valmiki did not mention the name of that language while saying that hanuman decided to speak in that language? This can happen (1) if that language was the only language spoken by human beings (Maanusham vaakyam) during his times and therefore he felt no need to mention it. (2) If Valmiki had depicted characters earlier in the epic who had spoken that common language. If Madhuram language was spoken in previous scenes, there would not arise a compulsion or need to express the name of the language in which Hanuman decided to speak. There Are Many Proofs I Have & If U Want I Will Show Don't Underestimate The Beautiful Ancient Language

This is the most random recommendation I believe I've ever got. As a westerner i'm a bit baffled. Is the question of which of the languages is older a source of national pride for indians/sri lankans? I would say age is probably the factor I would give the least weight to.

Let's take the word 'pooja'. Many Indo-Lankan languages use this word. It's a way of worshipping gods. But how ?. The original Tamil pronunciation is 'poosai'. Meaning 'doing with flower'. In Tamil 'poo' means flower & 'sai' is equivalent to 'sei' means do. Several thousand years later Sanskrit language borrowed this Tamil word 'poosai' and changed it as 'pooja'. Although in sanskrit they don't call flowers as 'poo' they use the word pooja where 'ja' doesn't have a meaning. Without knowing the proper meaning people are just using the word 'pooja' for worshipping. This is the reality. I can give many examples to prove Tamil is the oldest classical language. You can understand this with the word etymology. Ex. The word 'Temple' is originally from the Tamil word 'Thenpulam' meaning the south pole (southern region). 'Peninsula' is originally a Tamil word. 'Penin' = woman's ('pen' means woman in Tamil) 'sula' = womb ('sool' means womb in Tamil) So you get the meaning : A land mass extends towards the sea like a bump in a woman's womb / stomach. Here also the same. No one knows the real meaning, just using the word Peninsula. There are many more proofs.

Tamil Vowels and Consonants are called as Soul and Body. The grammar is based on how a Soul and Body involve in creating sound. For example a soul cannot directly contact another Soul, it has to contact through Body only. Similarly Body cannot create sound by its own. Body is just a medium/material. The Tamil vowels are common for any language in the world. Example B,C,D,G,P,T,V has E sound in it and F,H,J,K,L,M,N,S,X,Z has A sound in it and Q has U sound in it and Y has I sound in it. W - double U (UU) it has U sound. R has “ah” sound but this is not in english as a separate vowel. In fact “ah” is the base for all proper sounds created from mouth. Do not consider shh, iff sound which, these are not in Tamil.You can create lot more sounds like these from your mouth, but those cannot be taken as proper sounds since you cannot have a proper consonent(body) position. Yes, Consonants are just positions of the mouth/tongue/lips. If you tell “ah” continuously meanwhile close your mouth and open you will get “Amma”. If you tell “ah” continuously and stop while you close your mouth and start again while you open you will get “Appa”. “iP” and “iM” are same positions only difference is “iM” is nasal. Similarly Vallinam and Mellinam in Tamil follows. The Tamil grammar/language is based on how Soul and Body interacts. Tamil: Uyir ezhuthukkal (soul letters) are natural sounds that Humans make. Examples... ஆ Ha - when one gets pain ஈ Ee - when one laughs ஊ Uu - when one drops unexpectedly (whoops) ஏ Hey - In anger or when one alerts (Hey! watch out) ஐ ii - when one exclaims ஓ Oo - when one understands (Oh oh! now I understand) ஒள Ouu - when one fears of sudden pain (Ouch!) These expressions are common to any Human irrespective of language or region. Because these are natural sounds from inside us out of natural expressions. That is why these sounds are called as Uyir (soul) in Tamil.

Tamil is oldest language in India it's native Indian language

Sanskrit is not oldest language 😂😂. because no proof only one book told but tamil more proof . waste of time only go away😂😂😂. mental

Tamil is the only classical language to qualify all 11 criteria to be a classical language. What about sanskrit here?

Our tamil underwater researcher named ORISA BALU has requested SG, CG, HC & Supreme court for more than 10 to 11 years for enough funds and equipments for researching about kumari kandam. But none one supported nor helped! He even found a 2KM long wall under water which was 35 meters deep into water...1km far away from pondicherry..but no one researched it was what that & no authority supported his efforts! Now he's no more...we lost that gem...last year he passed away coz of cancer!

Just remember, Tamil is global language, it adopted and designed for everyone .. where as Sanskrit is not and relgion oriented.. World language and religious languages are not a comparison..

Tamil is an older language than Sanskrit. Records of the Tamil language date to the third century BCE and records of the Sanskrit language date to the second century BCE. Tamil is still in everyday use today, but Sanskrit died out around 600 BCE and is used for mainly religious and literature purposes today.

It’s not an argument it’s discussion. Point-1 Yupa inscription is animal sacrifice ritual details dated back to only 3rd CE ( common era). Inscription is not too old to claim in your favour. In addition to that Pallava script is used to write Sanskrit. Likewise oldest Sanskrit inscription is hathibada inscription in Rajasthan dated back to 1st century BCE. In the other hand tamil Brahmi inscription found at mangulam near Madurai is dated back to 3rd century BCE. Potsherds writing found in adichanallur date back to 905BCE - 696 BCE. All above are facts which are scientifically proved by carbon dating methods. Point-3 Which Pandiyan king issued Sanskrit coin in which year. The very interesting thing is Earliest Pandiyan coins are squares and rectangles and not circle. It embedded with symbols like fish, elephant, bull etc. Middle and later pandiyas king issued circle coins. Your are responsible and liable to define king name and year exactly. It’s possible at the time of Ranadhira pandiyan (ரணம் தீர்த்த பாண்டியன்) pandias dynasty is suffered heavily before him and want supremacy. He is the first recorded pandias king to defeat the Chera, chola, pallavas and he put an end to the kalabahra rule in Tamil Nadu between 700-730 CE after that Sanskrit may used by pandiyas. Everything I said above can be verified easily by intellectual community. Kindly say something with proof and fact not by assumption

As mentioned in Valmiki’s Ramayana, Rama traversed the length of the Indian subcontinent defore his final encounter with Ravana. Along the way he encounters various groups of people and even individuals such as Shabari. In what language did he communicate with the locals along the way? Is there a mention of he engaging translators ? Food for thought

From what I understand, Tamil is the world's oldest living language spoken by common folks on a daily basis. This is unlike Latin & Sanskrit. If Hindi & Sanskrit is politicised for dominance, there will surely be opposition. Let us always appreciate unity in diversity. There are no scholars who can be conclusive on many aspects of ancient human history.

It’s unfortunate that people mix linguistic scholarship with their nativism. Dravidians do it vis-a-vis Sanskrit; North Indians do it when discussing the origin of the vedas and their relationship with the Harappan Valley civilization. Archeological, linguistic, and DNA evidence must be triangulated by scholars in each field to weave together a story dispassionately and let the chips fall where they may. But people imagine themselves as the true inheritors of a golden past and get emotional if the story diverts from that predetermined conclusion.

There is no proof that tamil is the oldest language in the world, but there is proof that tamil is much older than sanskrit. Do we have manuscript of Valmiki ramayan is it even carbondated? Do we know the age of such text. Even prakrit is older than sanskrit. We have inscription which proves tamil is older than sanskrit.

What is the first indian language to become a classical language in the world? It is tamil not sanskrit😂 😂😂😂

Wich language old in proof?