The Alternate Timeline Iceberg Explained (Part 1)

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Published 2022-04-01
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Alternate history is the imagining of our world going down a path it didn't in our own timeline. Changes from big and small can have dramatic effects. And also can be fun ways to write stories.

I wanted to talk about the alternate timelines that have been imagined by authors and forum users over books, shows and online threads. And what better way than through an iceberg video.

Special thanks to TreytheExplainer for his help and inspiration.
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00:00 Introduction
01:12 Level 1
11:22 Level 2
21:48 Level 3
30:20 Level 4
36:12 Level 5
43:54 Level 6
50:11 Level 7
54:44 Level 8

All Comments (21)
  • @jpgoss9986
    34:35 "The Mirage" is a 2012 book by Matt Ruff about a united middle east that revolted against the ottomans, basically what if Pan-Arabism happened. they did stuff in ww2 like beheading Hitler at Nuremberg and split Germany in half, one being a Jewish state, and the other a Christian one. this Israel re-conquers a lot of german and is allied with the UAE as its relations with Europe are bad, so it is kinda a "how would you feel" scenario, America is also a destabilized 3rd world region
  • Imagine an alternative timeline where Harry Turtledove didn't write batshit insane alternative history novels.
  • @rattrap1009
    So basically there are three kinds of alternate histories: 1. What if Nazi victory? 2. What if Soviet victory? 3. What if ALIENS?
  • @bforblitz4847
    You cannot just pass over “Shakespeare trying to save queen Elizabeth” I need to know how he does it
  • @loowick4074
    >Alternate history theory "How original" >What if the Nazis won? "Daring today aren't we?"
  • April Fools! On me. The video and runtime are actually real. No joke here. I used April Fools as an excuse to do something different, and have wanted to do an iceberg video for a long time. Enjoy!
  • I’m wanna see an alternate history where Gavrilo Princip doesn’t assassinate Franz Ferdinand because the sandwich he ordered was so good he didn’t even notice the archdukes car passing by.
  • I wouldn't wanna live in a world where Harry Turtledove didn't write batshit historical fanfiction.
  • @GMP1isReal
    I love it when alternative history comes off like fanfics where the writer just pulls whatever historical figure they knew existed at the time and made them do something in the story, like Anna Oakley assassinating Teddy.
  • @comradesnake
    I get the distinct feeling that Harry Turtledove really likes alternate history.
  • The Stanislav Petrov one always gets me because it's just so real. The fate of the world rested on one man and he made the right choice.
  • @nrmaggs
    I made the flags for the Red World American states under Kaisar before he, unfortunately, passed away. Thank you for, A, featuring Kaiser's last work he was a dedicated mod dev with real passion and a good man. I met two very good friends through his mod team who I still keep in contact. Not to throw shade but from the interactions I had with the successor team, I appreciate their efforts but its not the same and never can be. B, thank you for the ego trip I never thought the flags I made when I was 17 would end up in an alt-history hub video 5 years later.
  • @twentylush
    the fact that turtledove isn't confined to one depth of the iceberg is funny. he writes so much alt history fiction that some end up being more esoteric than others
  • You know, this video made me realize how much of alternate history is so centerer in america or WW2. I'd be nice seeing more works based in other places and times, kinda like what cody does.
  • Futurism turning into a political ideology actually has some basis to it, as the real futurism does actually have a political bent to it. The philosophy is basically an outright rejection of nature and embracing of the artificial, rejection and contempt towards weakness and softness or even empathy, and the worship of strength. The Spacer clans from Brigador are an excellent example of a futurist society in fiction, and its exactly as messed up and sociopathic as expected.
  • @doesnotexist305
    I love how Harry Turtledove’s whole career is basically “Lmfao bro what if…”
  • @luketfer
    Gotta say the "what if NASA stuck to using Rockets and perfected the technology?" honestly sounds the most interesting out of all of these just because it's an honestly unique question that I hadn't thought of until it was mentioned.
  • @baneblade__
    The Race progressing at a super slow is a very interesting scifi concept, I wanna see more stuff like that. In a way it's comparable to the relationship between the Tau and the Imperium in Warhammer. The Imperium are so incredibly stagnant that they've gone backwards in the tech tree over the course of a 10000 years, meanwhile the Tau advance at a terrifying pace (in 6000 years going from cavemen to having spaceships and mechs)