Echo - ANOTHER Marvelous Mess

I refuse to believe that Wilson Fisk - a man who learned Mandarin and Japanese in secret just to know what his business associates were saying - opted to not learn ASL for someone he essentially views as a daughter.

So Disney wrote someone who never takes accountability for their horrible behavior? Shocking.

It's interesting that Bucky, who actually was forced to do evil (and is also an amputee) couldn't simply waive away his feelings of guilt and responsibility for what he'd done, while Echo blames all her actions on other people, and is, what, supposed to be commended for deciding to stop murdering people? Did she even decide to stop, or was she just leveled up in power for choosing to murder different people?

Kimiko in 'The Boys' didn't talk for most of the series and played a large role in the series development. She is a female and mute, but was not side-lined at all, because the character and the actress are just amazing. Not one moment where she tries to communicate or someone communicates with her, slowed the story down. Karen Fukuhara is just phenomenal in that role and all she does is emote, yet everything she wants to say comes across. 'Echo' is definitely one of the shows of all time.

It's hilarious how Hollywood's supposed writers think that a woman that has no emotions, inevitably comes across as a masculine and dangerous girl-boss. While everyone watching it simply sees her as a regular woman with severe emotional baggage and a not-so-happy childhood.

The idea that Daredevil would run away from a deaf girl is peak Disney. He's down to throwdown with The Punisher, who actively kills all of his opponents, but it's simply all too much when a deaf girl comes into the picture. Amazing, brave story telling for real for real lmfao

So basically our protagonist exhibits every trait that will be considered toxic in a man but is celebrating in a woman. That's modern day Marvel

Anyone else remember the episode “World on fire” from the Daredevil Netflix show? How it perfectly balanced grim, gritty action with doing some serious character and world building? We got to see Wilson Fisk go on a date with Vanessa (in a series of scenes that veered between genuinely heartwarming to feeling ominous and then back again seamlessly), we got to see Foggy and Karen going above and beyond to help out an elderly client before she arranges a dinner date for them, we got to see Matt continue to take on the Russian Mafia and be genuinely shocked when they think that he killed one of their leaders. All the while said leader’s brother arms his entire organisation to go to war against Fisk. All of which culminates in a literally explosive finish and the world as they all know it irrevocably changes forever. So, am I talking about all of this? I hear you ask. No reason, other than to remind you all of what a genuinely good Marvel TV show looks like. Because Echo sure as all hell isn’t it.

The fact that she failed to kill someone by shooting them at point blank range in the face, fits this show perfectly.

The odd thing is that ASL requires a ton of facial expression along with the actual signs, yet Echo manages to keep that blank expression the entire time.

Writing drama actually requires intelligence, empathy, and talent. Not narcissistic sociopaths who have no awareness.

This quote from Alaque Cox speaks volumes: "I don't know why they're giving me this opportunity, but I'm just grateful. I'm excited for the support and being able to advocate for the Deaf community. We want to have that equality and get more people involved. I'm just so grateful for all of the opportunities I've been given." Her IMDB page lists this show & Hawkeye as her only acting roles. She wasn't chosen for her acting chops & it seems even she may be a bit suspicious about it...

Nobody ever wanted an Echo show, they want DareDevil, and they will keep pulling you in using Daredevil. But you will never get that Daredevil again.

I keep thinking about how awesome it would be for Echo and Daredevil to team up. She can't hear him speak, he can't see her sign. It's a comedy gold mine right there.

Honestly the biggest joke in modern Disney is that any of their shows are remotely family friendly.

As a Native American, I cringe every time I see a new movie with a lead Native American character. Modern Hollywood loves race baiting like this and Native Americans seem to be in vogue right now. The trope that we are all misunderstood Res Dogs is embarrassing and belittling. I live in the the 21st century and just because I’m a Native doesn’t mean I had it tougher than my white neighbors, nor does it mean you should automatically feel bad for me because of my race. Disney, it is possible to have a Native character and not mention it every 10 minutes which is what this show looks like.

The fact that Daredevil has been treated this badly in two Disney + shows makes me infuriated beyond belief

Her facial expression never changes.... I mean, you'd think with a character that doesn't speak... you'd want their face and eyes to be pretty expressive.

I'm not in the Marvel fandom but as a man that is gay and ''of colour'' who loves Tolkien's work, I was furious at what Amazon did with the Rings of Power. Never once in all my years of being a fan of his did I question why their isn't brown skinned and/or gay people in it. Instead what I did do was relate to the actual personalities and experiences of the characters,....their triumphs, tragedies, motives, convictions, hopes, despair, courage, relationships, and how they responded and dealt with all these things. For the studios to reduce these stories down to skin colour, sexuality, body type etc is not only an insult to both the original creators and the audience, it results in crappy stories. I'm so damn sick of it!

Drinker: "It's almost like our warnings fall on deaf ears." I saw what you did there