Why Is 4D Golf So Cursed

i love that half of the frustration in this game is just from minigolf and not the fact that its 4d

Thanks for streaming Icely! It gets even more cursed toward the end, and there may be a certain chess related meme you'll enjoy... 😉

So I think I understand- we can only percieve 3 dimensions, and in 'regular' view we perceive 3 axis: up-down, left-right, forward-back. But in volume view we still only see on 3 axis, but we sacrifice being able to see up-down so that we can see ana-kata. So in volume view, up and down are a bit confusing, and in regular view, ana and kata are confusing

you must understand that nothing is "ceasing to exist" you are in an environment everything is there

it’s 4d golf, duh did you expect it to be simple

Icely doesn't isn't failing at 4d minigolf. He's just failing at minigolf.

Regular golf: Searching for your ball. 4D golf: Searching for the hole.

Y'know it switches slices when it hits a wall because it deflects in three dimensions when it does that.

"unstable slices" girl. bro. dude. my guy. bouncing is a thing.

don't worry icely, it gets more cursed in later levels like a whole new realm of cursed that you'd never believe

“It makes me face the ball but doesnt teleport me to it” Thats what it does outside of volume mode too.

"I like how the hole leaves its slice" is like saying "that parked car came out of nowhere!"

I think your main issue comes from assuming that slopes will push you only in the dimensions you can see even if you can't see it, there's always a hidden dimension that slopes will push you in, which is why it seems like the slice you're in suddenly changes in reality, it's just the slope pushing you away it's like if you have a hole that's up a hill and to the right. If you aim straight at it, your ball will end up veering to the right. The same thing is happening in that fourth, hidden dimension as well, so you need to angle off-slice so that you get pushed into the right slice the compass tools on the top right might be helpful for that. Whichever axis is facing you is the hidden axis that you could be pushed along on

4D Minigolf with 3 Dimensional Volume Mode Display

Icely talking about "slices" as though they're not just directions probably doesn't help

Here is what's going on: Picture a game of normal golf on a flat, straight course. The ball can move forward, backward, left, and right, it is essentially 2D. Now imagine the same course but with a hill: You can see the slope, width of the course, and distance to the hole, so you know to hit the ball in a certain direction at a certain power to hit the ball into the hole. Now imagine the same course, but you can only view it from the top or side or front at a time. From the top, you would see the ball slow down and roll backwards for no reason. From the side, you would get up the slope but you wouldn't even know where the hole is. From the front (looking from the ball toward the hole) you would be able to line the ball up with the hole but you couldn't judge the distance or slope very well. Now compare this to 4D golf: Each perspective (normal, volume, and whatever other perspectives) can be any one of these three basic views (top, front, or side) at any given time depending on the course and postion of the ball. You might get the distance and width of the course from one, slope and distance from another, and slope and width from a third. With 4D golf, there are way more views, but at least this gives a pretty good comparison.

This game shows 4D insanely well. Another one is 4D miner, which had a lot of consideration put into it as well. Tilting the view to get into "Volume mode" is an amazing ability and changes the perception completely, that's awesome!

never thought I'd see somebody turn the first stage of a Menger sponge into a golf course

"It was nicer when we had the Wii Sports bar" you can turn that bar on in the Settings

Icely casually proving that he's a 5D being who can see 4D slices and appreciate them (because 4D Golf is totally a puzzle game that needs to be appreciated) and definitely not complain about their nature