Even the Borg Fear These Aliens...

But the real question is, can they defeat Goku?

Borg: resistance is futile. Undine: nah.

I like in Star Trek Online how the Undine are easier to spot in disguise than a Dominion changeling because Undine cannot resist talking about how weak they are and how much they are frightened of the mighty Undines.

I think that the Undine are the "last man standing " after the death of their universe. Think about it, when the stars die out sentient species would struggle to find ways to survive. Moreover, those that find a way to survive would be targeted by other desperate species. This would explain why the Undine are so powerful, they had to survive the end of the universe and every other species. This also explains their moto, "the weak will perish. "

I remember one of the novels clarifying that they were so gung-ho in their slug fest with the Borg, that their standard protocol was such that if anyone on their ships, at any time, issued a "Self destruct" order, the ship instantly blew with no countdown or take-backs. That's pretty hardcore.

Another question is why have they evolved to be Super-Apex Predators when there is no prey or competition around them? They should be like Birds on Islands where they haven't learned to fear anything.

The Undine, while an excellent foe, suffered from the same problems as the Romulans in TOS - they were too expensive! 😁

Thanks to Voyager's thrust into the Delta Quadrant, the show added so much for Star Trek to unpack in an effort to expand its cannon. Videos like this help the unpacking process and, to me, are pretty interesting.

Species 8472 episodes were solid. Another great thing about Voyager is how they took from what they learned doing TNG and were able to make elaborate on such interesting concepts.

I love that you take the Sci-fi seriously. So few channels do that and that's a shame

Back in the late-90's I made a huge "board game"(8'x4') for my kids. It featured several "squares" that said "SPECIES 8472... you've been eliminated from the game".

First time I've ever seen a red shirt make it through an entire episode. Well done 👏

Your writer suggesting you add pissing gold and shitting diamonds made me hit the like. Good job writer

Something I just realized- the Undine are clearly not alone in fluidic space as they have a need for shields and weapons and it is unlikely they developed them just to fight the borg

I love the Species 8472 alien creation and I think the Tholians are also very cool. Thanks for sharing your research on this topic

I think the Voyager writers took inspiration from Babylon 5's Shadows. The Shadows look sort of similar and they also have organic tech with their ships.

For decades, I interpreted them existing in "fluidic space" as them existing in a form of hyperspace (extradimensional space) where all matter is fluid, super-hot, and dense. Them entering "our space" via the gates make them "blow up" to many times their actual volume and actually have less mastery over their powers and form despite how well they adapt to our cold vacuum. To put in simple comic-book sci-fi logic, they exist in almost the quantum universe and were not aware of our universe until the Borg invaded them.

I can't believe I forgot about these. I need to watch Voyager again.

I remember watching their first appearance when it aired as a kid, and seeing that many Borg cubes… FLEEING?! oh boy… it was absolutely terrifying.

When I saw the Borg, they reminded me of the Posbis that I read in the pages of Perry Rhodan about 10 years earlier. They were as big a threat as the Borg are. They had shields that were like time machines; whatever hit them was sent to the past before it could reach the Posbi ship.