FoEhints: Level Up Your Arc, but do it the right way! in Forge of Empires

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FoEhints: Level Up Your Arc, but do it the right way! in Forge of Empires

This video explains the various possibilities to level up great buildings far beyond level 10. I will not only introduce these, but also rate them and make recommendations. The Arc will be om the focus as a very special example. The same hints also work for all other great buildings. I will show that depending on the level of your great building, different methods should be preferred.

The simple method to add forge points to your great building is to pay them yourself. In case another player contributes forge points to your great building, he or she would receive a contribution reward for doing so. This you can use to your own advantage. All firther methods to level up a great building are better than only paying forge points to your own great building. Therefore such payments to your own great building should be limited to the number of forge points needed to secure other payments. This will be explained later.

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  • @FoEhints
    FoETipps: Level Up Your Arc, but do it the right way! in Forge of Empires This video explains the various possibilities to level up great buildings far beyond level 10. I will not only introduce these, but also rate them and make recommendations. The Arc will be om the focus as a very special example. The same hints also work for all other great buildings. I will show that depending on the level of your great building, different methods should be preferred. The simple method to add forge points to your great building is to pay them yourself. In case another player contributes forge points to your great building, he or she would receive a contribution reward for doing so. This you can use to your own advantage. All firther methods to level up a great building are better than only paying forge points to your own great building. Therefore such payments to your own great building should be limited to the number of forge points needed to secure other payments. This will be explained later. Support Chains A very common method to level up great buildings are support chains. Nearly each guild has dedicated messages for this. You add your great building to it and pay the defined number of forge points to the author of the previous message. As the next player will do the same you get returned the invested forge points. On top you have the chance of being one of the best supporters of a great building and to receive a contribution bonus. That is sent to the inventory and can be summed up there to really huge amounts. In the end these additional forge points help you to level up your great buildings faster. But these support chains got a negative image. Especially when very strong players and new players are in the same guild, these support chains are a disadvantage for weak players as these will never receive a decent contribution reward. Nit the support chains are bad, but the behavior of strong people is reckless – or at least simply thoughtless. Weaker player require a special consideration to have a fair chance in support chains. Sometimes it might be a good idea to create a support chain for new players only. Often it is enough to simply inform strong players, Many simply don't notice what they might cause to the weak guild members with what they do. Those who fill a great building using the methods, described in the following part of this video, and then let his guildmates fill the remaining forge points using support chains, simply cheats his guildmates. I only can encourage guilds to not allow that to happen. Knowing there are some handicaps coming along with support chains, I still recommend them especially for the lowest levels of great buildings. It is a time-efficient, attractive possibility to level up the own great building while receiving required blueprints as sponsor from other great buildings. And these blueprints you will need urgently as soon as you start upgrading your great building above level 10. From that level you then should reduce the usage of support chains and start to prefer the other methods described now. Fixed Exchange Partners Above level 10 of a great building I recommend to use fixed exchange partners from your guild or friendslist. These partners confirm 2 things to each other: 1. From collecting your daily forge points you invest a negotiated, fixed number of forge points every day into a specified great building of your exchange partner. He pays the same number in your selected great building. 2. Both negotiate a fixed rank in the list of contributors and take care that no other player will be a risk for that guaranteed rank. That rank is important for both, receiving forge pints in return and receiving the required blueprints of the sponsored great building. To avoid misunderstanding I highly recommend both players to add each payment in a message of a dedicated message chain. There you can also inform in case someone cannot pay at a certain date. Fixed exchange partners are most helpful if both want to push the same type of great building, currently being on a similar level. Example given a player with an Arc level 10 contributes to an Arc level 10 of another player with 120 forge points and receives the negotiated contributor rank 2, he will receive a guaranteed contribution reward of 78 forge points plus 2.001 medals and 3 blueprints. I already included the 31% bonus provided by the Arc level 10. That reward is already half of what is needed for doing the same on the next level of that great building. This makes it much easier to level up such great buildings. For the lowest levels of a great building this method requires too much micromanagement. Therefore I highly recommend to start above level 10 to use more and more fixed exchange partners instead of support chains. It is absolutely realistic to use 3 fixed exchange partners for the first three ranks. The remaining 2 ranks can then be offered to players who urgently need blueprints of that great building. The lower ranks of low level great buildings often do not provide forge points as a contribution bonus, but blueprints. Some players even find 5 partners for their great building. 1.9-sponsorship The Arc provides a unique bonus for contributors. Those who have the Arc on level 80, receive 1.9 times the normal contribution bonus. In many guilds the owners if such high level Arcs offer their guildmates to use that Arc bonus to their advantage. If a contributor can be sure to get the first rank if a level 30 Arc, he would not only receive a bonus of 420 forge points, but 798 forge points instead. This allows to contribute 798 forge points to an Arc level 30 without receiving something in return. The contributor's reward are the medals and blueprints. Unfortunately a player with such a high level Arc usually already has more than enough of these. This sponsorship is so efficient and commonly used that players receiving the contribution already feel this as something normal, forgetting that the contributor invests his or her time and uses a high level great building that was hard work to get. In guilds with weaker members you often find 1.8 or 1.85 sponsorships as Arcs are not high enough for more. It is very important to secure the contributor's rank. This is done best by paying forge points into your own great building until it is filled so much that the contributor's share is 50% of the remaining forge points. This way no neighbor can snipe that rank. Afterwards you can use another sponsor for rank 2. Before the third contribution bonus rank is filled, you again need to pay some more own forge points as the bonus for rank 3 is less than 50% of the bonus for rank 2. Same applies to ranks 4 and 5. The required number of forge points can be calculated by FoEhelper and it also can copy it to the clipboard. This makes it very simple to create a perfect line to ask sponsors for their help. Most guilds have a message chain dedicated to such a 90% sponsorship as it is important for all guilds that their members level up their great buildings. Please complete a level as fast as possible when you use such a 90% sponsor as he or she will get returned the invested forge points only on completion of that level. The faster the investment is returned, the earlier the next player can get help. In active guilds with many high level Arcs this is the most powerful method for leveling a great building. Bit you cannot rely on it only as in the lower levels you will always be short of blueprints. Therefore you will combine this method with fixed exchange partners to make sure that you have a steady flow if blueprints. In the medium range of great buildings, above level 30 and below level 70, the contribution reward is so big that you often only need a very small own payment to complete a level. Ambitioned players organize a team of 5 players for a fixed time and then they make 20 levels of a great building in a row. The contributors get back their forge points after each level. So they will not reach limits. The owner of the great building needs the forge points in the inventory that are required to complete each level. In the middle range of levels this is absolutely realistic. With such a level-up-party a great building can develop extremely fast.
  • When I was levelling my Arc using a 1.9x system, there were Arcs in the 50’s and going quickly while I was in the 20’s.... I did not have problems with blueprints because not only was I getting my own positions filled, I was also filling others’ positions 4 and 5 at 1.9x which meant I was getting lots of blueprints at a good price...
  • I used a different method to get my arc to 80. I use effectively a sprint system. Basically a group of 4 of us throw our dailies in a building going in turn (level go to next person level ect) then having the top 2 spots taken by 1.9s after level 20. we got our arcs from 10 to 80 in about 2 months.
  • @maxbowdler3380
    Another great video. This is exactly what I did when I started. But now I have 80 arc I only use 1.9 threads
  • @keenviewer
    Wow you can really dive down the rabbit hole with this game. Very well explained. BTW I was fascinated by your video on cashew nut production in 2018. I admit I picked up very little of the German, but it was interesting nonetheless :)
  • @BearsWorkshop
    Swap threads are a horrible idea at any level above 2. Lower level players can get an Arc Prints and 1,000's of medals in Iron Age in 1.9 threads by taking slot 5. Expansions and prints galore. Couple of other reasons but swapping is the slowest way to go.
  • @patricelee8118
    Great informative videos as usual!:) keep up the good work
  • @JennyGavinWear
    This is great. I wish a few more guild leaders would realise that smaller cities need separate swap threads as I have so many stupid arguments about this.
  • @ericsaxon5736
    FYI, I've never heard anyone call them support chains. The name I've seen used by every guild are 'swap threads.'
  • @KasperPlougmann
    1.9 sponsorships is the only way to go. Everything else is subpar and a bad deal for a least one of the parties
  • @kyril98741
    1. Support chain are use to quickly level up gb to lvl 10 and any reward you got are just bonus. There are other method that are more useful to get bp 2. I would suggest 3 partner for fixed group. Get 1.9 guy for p1-3 and P4 & P5 for group member for Bp...
  • @andolo2081
    Will you be releasing more power start episodes? I’m a new player and it’s really helpful.
  • I contribute to my own buildings until the spots can be locked in for 1.9x. That makes the owner spend the least amount of fp possible.
  • @jimdavis2754
    I use a combination many times and have become successful with it. It is a timing thing of when to leave the point swap group and go all in on the 1.85 or 1.9 thread.
  • I'm already at level 80 with my arc. I'm working on my CoA at the moment. Once a person learns to do the math, they become Unstoppable.
  • @MrAgent47.
    Can you make a video that explains trading goods and forge points? And discuss the price of goods between ages?
  • @scott7621
    Always more than one way to skin a cat, but I disagree with the proposed method for getting BPs when you are just starting out. Trying to get them using generic swap threads is pretty hard when you're not making enough FPs to get spots. Here is the best way I have found in my four years of playing FOE. First off, dont worry about getting into a guild you plan to sit in for a while. You want to be guild hopping for your first few weeks. By guild hopping I mean join a guild, go through and aid everyone and then leave, then rinse and repeat. You get BPs from aiding and will accumulate a lot by guild hopping. I do this on all my worlds when I start and I can get full sets for many GBs very easily. It is also a great way to do volume sniping and gives you access to a lot of trades so make sure you check the trades in each guild before leaving. Another thing I do to supplement this is I add very high ranking players to my FL. I start at the top and work my way down adding as many of the high ranking players as possible. This is helpful in a few ways. One, you will get many late age BPs from daily aiding. Two, you can grab 5th place on their very high level GBs which will yield you A LOT of BPs as well as helpful medals to open expansions. Three, high age players are a good source to get cheap goods to build the GBs. After I have got all the necessary BPs, then I find a guild I plan to stay in for a while. In just under two months Im still in IA and Ive already built a TOB, LOA, Chateau, Traz, Zeus, COA and TOR. I also have the goods and prints to build my CDM, Arc, Cape, AO and Inno which I will be planting once I get my next expansion at 18,000 medals.
  • @nunyabiznes33
    I try to secure at least 2nd place on other guildies Arc. Sure, even with the bonus reward I still end up paying at least 100 FP but then again that's about how much I earn a day.