Why I switched back to Intel...

aged like milk

7800x3D with Gigabyte b650 elite, gskill 6000 ram and 4090, been stable, no bluescreens, no slow startups. PBO on -30 and it's been good. It was my first build since owning a 4790k so was kind of nervous about not making any mistakes but thank God its been working great.

I wonder how Jayz will look back to this video with the i7/i9 instability issues.

This didn't age well

As a 7900X user, I just don’t have the issues with Windows like Jay and others say they have.

Im still on am4 5900x its been such a great cpu and i will upgrade to the 9900x when it comes out next year. Getting first gen am5 was brave for anybody who did it but i thank them. Thanks for all the likes and comments.

i guess you need to reverse back to ryzen

I don't understand, wouldn't going to intel still give you affinity issues because of the P/E cores?

I had similar issues very early on with a 7950X, and it seemed like memory stability as well. Fast forward a week of debugging and I decided to disable the CPU's onboard AMD graphics in the device manager. I never had a memory issue again.

At our repair shop, we've seen a small handful of X3D systems come in with RAM instability, too. The solutions varied by computer. One had a dead CMOS bettery which resulted in the BIOS resetting every time he turned off his PC, and the stock BIOS setting kept enabling XMP at a speed the CPU absolutely hated; fixed with new CMOS battery and proper settings. Another had RAM that wasn't white-listed for the number of sticks (x4); the timings were off from other sticks on the white list; switched with "compatible" RAM, set XMP to supported speed, and it stabilized. Another refused to dual-channel with XMP turned on; updated BIOS and set RAM clocks to a speed listed on the mobo specs. On and on and on. We routinely refer to AMD CPUs, GPUs, and MOBOs as "fussy" and "finicky" because the tinkering seems to never end. Edit: "Instability" varied from failing Memtest to BSODs to hard shut offs during benchmarks.

Kinda same problems I had to dealt with my 7800x3d, but I set BIOS to default and I don't get boot loops and blue screens anymore. Interesting to see this video from you and getting feedback or informations that these problems are on AMD's side not that I did something wrong.

Im useing the 7950x3d since March with 6000 cl30 corsair ram and useing curve optimizer and it works with 0 crashes, no bluescreen and fast boots. Ive always used intel cpus before and im currently kinda happy with the amd cpu.

I've been using AM5 since launch, running HyperX EXPO 6000mhz, started out with 7700x on release, then moved to 7900x 3D when it dropped, and now on 7800X 3D... besides the usual longer post times, the system is solid as a rock!

Bought a 7800X3D with a 4090 after your "Thread Controller" comments earlier in the year. Absolutely rock solid and fantastic for work and gaming. Side benefit, it all went in a Fractal Torrent Compact so it's small and quiet to boot.

So the memory training on boot-up does not occur on the standard 7950x ? For that CPU is it the case that you turn the machine on and you are at the Windows desktop in seconds es you would expect ?

There are issues with sleep forcing and then getting stuck on bad memory timings on a lot of different systems but the AM5 stuff really highlights the issue, to the point where some motherboard manufacturers are completely disabling the ability to put the computer to sleep from the bios. You'll likely fix all of your issues completely if you clear CMOS and then either leave the computer running or shut it down rather than sleeping/hibernating it.

Memory Issues are a PITA . Please continue to use both platforms and let us know what is the best overall. Stability is more important when your rig is a daily driver not just a drag racer.

@JayzTwoCents Now that the AMD system is torn down, I would love to see you try the CPU and Memory in different motherboards and see if you have any different results. Or do the issues with the memory continue to plague the system. If that is the case, then would another brand of the same speed memory change the outcome. I have always loved trouble shooting these types of issues. Perhaps a Colab with Gamers Nexus with the system components being tested by them is in order?

Love how the algorithm is digging up all these videos now that we know how bad 13/14 Intels really are.

there was a bug in some of the AGESA bios a few months back that broke the memory context restore function. I would get bluescreens on startup everytime and had to reset the cmos even after relaxing memory timings. That was until I discovered turning off memory context restore fixed everything. I could even use the tweaked memory settings i was using before. I think this was fixed on some boards eventually, but not all. Just wondering maybe that was what you were experiencing.