Masters vs. Slaves | Nietzsche's Genealogy of Morality Explained

Many in the comments have (rightly) pointed out that Nietzsche does not advocate for a simple return to the master morality of the Greco-Roman world. I never intended to frame his positive vision as a simple return, which is why I emphasized the undesirable aspects of master morality (e.g. the masters being brutish) and the positives which slave morality has brought about (inner life, high culture, etc.). But my own grasp of his positive proposal was hazy. So after re-reading parts of the book and consulting with one of the top Nietzsche scholars Brian Leiter (whose booked formed the basis of my original interpretation) here’s my updated view: Instead of describing his project as: “What Nietzsche wants to elevate instead is what he calls master morality: inegalitarian, elitist, which he associates with the pagan world, the Greco-Roman world” … I should have said: “Nietzsche wants to make the creation of moralities structurally analogous to the old master morality possible and attractive.” Here’s the key distinction: Nietzsche is clearly not saying that we should resurrect Greco-Roman values as is but he wants to give higher men the license and impulse to establish new kinds of moralities that are structurally analogous to the old master morality and not the existing dominant slave morality. Such structural features include but are not limited to substantive positions (e.g. willingness to embrace suffering, inegalitarian view of humans) and meta positions (e.g. moral anti-realism, rejection of free will). Of course, there are many possible sets of moralities that can exist within these boundaries: both Napoleon and Beethoven are willing to embrace suffering and see difference among men but for different reasons and along different dimensions. In other words, Nietzsche’s project in the genealogy is more of a clearing of the ground so higher men can create their own (non-slavish) value systems. It’s more of a tearing down of slave morality than prescription of any determinate morality, which is reflected in the critical emphasis of the lecture. A meta-point: please keep in mind that I am not a scholar of any of the books I’ve covered (with perhaps the exception of Girard). I only spend 8 weeks with one of these books, read 4-5 of the top secondary works, interview a few of the leading scholars, and hire a junior professor as a tutor to help gut check my interpretations. This is far from the work required to give “the best” interpretation. As comparison, I’ve spent years reading all of Girard’s work over and over again, published in the leading journal, and wrote a book-length manuscript on mimetic theory. In these great books lecture, I am only giving “an” interpretation that I find coherent and does not deviate too far from a dominant interpretation in the field, in this case leiter's. But also keep in mind that (especially with people like Nietzsche) there is no real “consensus” even among scholars. Go read Leiter’s book and you will find a large section of polemics against the other dominant Nietzscheans: Kaufmann, Nehemas, etc. The moral of the story is that there is ultimately no replacement for reading these books yourself (in the original language, because translation is interpretation) which is what I hope my lectures and interviews will inspire you to do.

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Marcus Aurelius, the humble stoic master deserves close review. A man that had all of the power of the World at his fingertips and yet he lived a modest, morally righteous life.

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There's a misconception here. Nietzsche didn't necessarily advocate treating others as mere instruments. He endorsed: Shared Humanity, which is a form of compassion driven by a recognition of our shared human experience. This involves empathy and understanding without necessarily feeling pity. Tough Love which represents an approach that motivates the suffering individual to overcome their struggles. It might involve setting boundaries or challenges that ultimately benefit the other person's growth. Respectful Challenge: Nietzsche argued that sometimes challenging others can help them develop. This wouldn't be about using them for your own gain, but pushing them to overcome limitations and reach their full potential.

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The Japanese have a concept in Ikigai that aligns with the idea of Master and Slave Morality. It recognizes that some individuals have the duty to lead (Master Morality), while others are more suited to serve (Slave Morality). The key isn't about leaders being self-absorbed or servers being incompetent. Instead, the solution lies in combining and acknowledging their strengths. By learning to balance and complement each other's strengths and weaknesses, they can work harmoniously and effectively together.

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Some links to further guide your study: * Join my email list to be notified of future episodes: johnathanbi.com/ * Full transcript: open.substack.com/pub/johnathanbi/p/transcript-for… Companion lectures & interviews: * Girard's Defense of Christianity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0x09KBDAE9A * Nietzsche's Attack on Free Will (Launching 6/9/24): https://youtu.be/rzzxFuyJX5E Texts I referenced (affiliate): * Best Translation of the Genealogy: amzn.to/45jtXS4 * My Book Notes: www.johnathanbi.com/p/on-the-genealogy-of-morality… * Best Reading Companion to the Genealogy: amzn.to/3x4QQMc * My Book Notes: www.johnathanbi.com/p/nietzsche-on-morality-by-bri…

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