MELEE WEAPON UPGRADES ARE USELESS! Here's why...

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Published 2023-08-11
Melee weapons are some of the most important weapons in Hypixel Skyblock as they are generally every player's first proper damage dealing item. As a result, people tend to focus on the best weapons they can get depending on their stage of the game seeing as upgrades to their weapon will obviously enhance their damage. However, melee weapon progression has stayed the same for many months now, and with the recent updates that have slightly shifted changes in the meta, I decided to re-visit your typical "meta weapons" to see if this was still the case. To my surprise, quite a lot has changed regarding melee weapon progression over these past couple months, so I've decided to explore it in thorough detail in today's video to share what I've discovered

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Timestamps:
0:00 Introduction
1:00 What makes a GOOD Melee Upgrade?
3:35 Costs & Requirements for All Tested Weapons
8:39 Gear & Profile Stats Used for Testing (1/2)
9:52 Superior Dragon's Full Set Bonus
11:45 Gear & Profile Stats Used for Testing (2/2)
13:18 Damage Tests: AOTD & Livid Dagger
14:39 Damage Tests: FoT, Fel Sword & AOTV
15:30 Damage Tests: Shadow Fury & Giant's Sword
16:40 Damage Test Disclaimers
17:24 Damage Test + Comparison Recap
18:35 Weapon Value Analysis
25:26 Which Upgrades Should You Buy?
29:57 Personal Anecdotes & Experience
30:31 Outro + Bonus Information

Video Edited by:    / @fanku   (fanku on discord)
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All Comments (21)
  • @soggyrl
    Way too many low level players buy a giants sword, when their magical power is usually incredibly low. If that money was put into balancing their profile better, I think everyone would benefit
  • @lightningburst428
    I was criminally offended when he completely ignored the Fel sword's actual purpose: BETTER DUNGEON HEALING It causes both of the healer's already solid abilities to be easier to use, and makes healing circle make any healer nigh-on unkillable in the right situation. This makes any decent tank-healer combo completely invincible against even Maxor's frenzy (No pre-wish) or Storm's giga lightning (assuming both have enough EHP)
  • @hunterclarke7799
    Exactly the type of content I am looking for. someone who can do in depth testing for me so i dont have to waste coins on a better sword. thank you!
  • @progamerdgd943
    don't forget a 5 star livid dagger attack speed is buffed from 50% to 75% in dungeons
  • @tpskip4k
    You can get the dragon fuse glove for no more than 1.5m by just crafting dragon boots (which ever one costs the least money) and sacrificing the boots at the altar then selling any other drop that isnt ritual residue. I know this because I've done this multiple times and it's very easy to do and saves a lot of money
  • @SlayerMorgs
    The thing is the dragon fuse glove is that it takes up that slot which could have the gauntlet of contagon and with the implosion belt with that you do very good clears and 35% more damage to mobs around you and it costs 4m extra
  • @waynequach1898
    Doesn't wanna make the tests unfair by using the correct power stone for the weapon but makes it unfair by intentially reducing the amount of dmg a weapon can do by using the incorrect power stone wtf?
  • @Dornick_
    TLDR: Comparing weapons is more complicated than you think. very nice video, just wanted to make a few quick comments because there are some things you seemed to miss, while yes aotd is very good, livid dagger is too, just not with the setup you where using it with. when used with a dps setup livid dagger will kill pretty much any mob really fast, faster than something like a shadow fury or even sometimes a giant sword, when paired with ferocity the attack speed from the livid dagger becomes far more impactful. just for a little suggestion, when comparing weapons it is a good idea to at least try to make a setup epitomized for each individual weapon. although with this you would also need to take into consideration the different playstyles that come with each weapon, for example with the livid dagger you could lean fully into the dps aspect and use a tiger pet and dirty reforge and put your talismans on bloody, or you could try to balance it so that you do a mix of dps and shd by going with a lion pet, suspicious reforge instead of tiger and dirty reforge, or someone could do what you did and simply not optimize their setup for the weapon they are using at all, and as you can see, that leads to very underwhelming results. Similarly when you where talking about the aotd you also failed to mention the fact that it can also function as a mage weapon as well as a mele weapon Another thing, with the gaints swords someone could instead of going with the standard shd setup one would normally use with giants sword, you could use somewhat of a hybrid dps/shd setup and use a lion/tiger pet with the sword on suspicious reforge and talismans on bloody. Final Note: this is not even taking into consideration things like stars, recoms, hot potato books, enchants/ultimate enchants, which would not only increase the damage but could also either increase or decrease the gap in damage/dps between weapons, this is also not taking into consideration things like armor and equipment. TLDR: Comparing weapons is more complicated than you think.
  • @fusion3953
    Thanks this was very helpful. Could you do a tier list of the overall weapons and armour?
  • @EmotionalTomato
    I noticed during the dps test comparison of the Livid dagger and the AOTD he seemed to be jerking his mouse with the Livid dagger in order to hit the target less instead of the optimal strategy of just sitting there and hitting the mob. If the rev can get inside of you like it usually does when you stand still all of your attacks become backstabs. Even without it if you are simply tracking the rev without backstabs then the livid dagger usually performs about 20-40% better depending on your setup.
  • @Jensonator10
    I personally went from aotd with the gauntlet, to livid dagger because I could switch out my equipment with the gauntlet of contagion. I could later sell the livid dagger when I wanted to get something better. But in terms of DPS the Livid dagger scales much better because of the attack speed. For things like starting the crimson Isle it helps quite a bit.
  • @whitedayzz6573
    Probably the most helpful Hypixel Skyblock video i have Seen so far in terms of combat and weapons. Really appreciate your work, keep it up. :)
  • giants sword is the bare minimum for lcm in master mode, nothing else comes close until dark claymore, so while getting something like a giants sword might be really dumb for an early game/ mid game player, eventually it becomes needed for a certain class. granted once you get that far you should have a bit of money😅
  • @roninkirsh1560
    Having a livid dagger or shadow fury with a flower of truth is a great combo for dungeons, flower for room clear, and livid or fury for minis and bosses
  • @redpanda7691
    Hey PrehistoricSoldier :) It's Mace from that one Crystal Hollows lobby. I hope all is well. Thanks for the warp back into the server when I needed it. Hope to see you again in a lobby some day
  • @dcincco
    Reason for getting warped aotv: even tho it’s worse, If I rly just wanna annoy my friend’s I’ll recombinant my current heroic aotv, and then put warped on it purely for the different furfsky texture.
  • @Ryan_Not_Reeyan
    Great content, very useful. Actually glad I looked up your channel and catch your streams.
  • @minecraftmando455
    I don't remember which series it was (Hardcore Ironman maybe), but Thirtyvirus proved Fel Sword is broken. At the time it didn't have a cata req if I remember correctly. It briefly spiked in price to like 2m, but then the admins added the cata req, and the Fel Sword fell back into irrelevance to most of the community.
  • @mageoutlaw9430
    I've seen some people who like running dungeons very early on kind of neglect the talisman bag, because the stats you get from buying talismans are minimized compared to stats you get from other upgrades such as recombobulators due to them scaling with catacombs levels and stuff in dungeons, so that kind of justifies buying a Shadow Fury instead of sticking with AOTD while spending more on talismans