The Ant-Man Conundrum

The car chase scene in AntMan and The Wasp is underrated. I like The AntMan movies. I enjoy them as little side quest in the MCU. Could they have more stakes yes, could they be more tense and dramatically emotional yes, but enjoy them for their lighter funnier tone. Paul Rudd is just a comedic win every time.

I love that Edgar Wright said: "I wanted to make a Marvel movie, but Marvel didn't want to make an Edgar Wright movie." The man knows what he's doing.

My favorite aspect of the Ant Man films is how rewatch- able they are for me. They’re lighthearted, low stake MCU films that honestly we could use more of nowadays. I’m getting really tired of each and every MCU film being these massive planet/universe changing events over and over again. Sometimes you just need a small scale ground level battle on a random street corner in New York City, amongst all the insane green screen magical chaos in every other movie. Which is also why I really enjoyed Hawkeye!

Ant-Man and The Wasp may not be the most interesting MCU characters but they have the most unique superpowers out of most of the Avengers. Shrinking and growing themselves while also shrinking and growing anything else? AND communicating with different races of ants who have their own "powers" and using them as sidekicks? That's so freaking cool!

I liked Ant-Man's movies and felt they were underrated. His debut saw Scott struggling with the stigma of a criminal record, even though he didn't hurt anybody. He deals with having a less-than-kind mentor who is risking Scott's life because he doesn't want to risk his daughter. While we jump right into Scott as Ant-Man, the movie hints at Pym's legacy as Ant-Man. As another nice bit for the movie, Scott's ex-wife isn't dating who isn't a jerk for the purpose of driving her back into Scott's arms. I don't see Ant-Man & The Wasp as boring. Scott is dealing with trying to handle a job, all while he's been roped into another job for Hank Pym. At first, it comes off as a pointless diversion, until Scott points out that if this security firm job fails, then he and his buddies aren't going to get new chances for jobs anytime soon. The Ghost has the motivation of not wanting to die. I'm confused as to how that is a generic motive. I loved her and Bill as characters. In a different movie, they would be the superhero mentor duo and Hank Pym would be the villain because the sequel emphasizes that he is a real jerk. But ultimately Hank is just a jerk, not a villain, and he accepts that he has been a rotten person to everyone around him. It is an easy solution to have Janet save the Ghost, but we didn't want to see the Ghost die. Well, I didn't. But this is just my opinion. You are entitled to your own and just like what is and isn't funny is subjective, so what is and isn't boring.

Endgame made him a player. The whole film being a time-heist was all because of his franchise. The third Ant-Man film has to honour that.

I actually think the 1st Ant-Man is fantastic but I absolutely am on the boat that Marvel, alongside the Hulk, has squandered the potential of Ant-Man & Wasp. The movies have some fantastic set pieces from the 1st Test & Yellowjacket Heist in the 1st film & the Car Chase & Kitchen Fight sequences in the 2nd.

The Ant-Man movies are the best. They’re character driven rather than mindless action. They’re sweet, funny, sentimental, and a great watch.

I love the first Ant-Man. It feels like a proper comedy unlike many MCU movies where comedy feels like it’s been injected afterwards. I can’t deny that Edgar Wright’s film would have been better. Ant-Man and the Wasp feels like the type of MCU movie I mentioned, even though it has some proper comedy set ups. I still enjoy it to some degree, mostly because of Paul Rudd’s charm. Really hoping Quantummania is good

honestly even though antman and the wasp wasn't a great movie, I never minded rewatching it because of Paul Rudd. I think regardless of how this movie turns out, Jonathan Majors and Paul Rudd's performances will be worth it and I'm so goddamn excited

Everything was heading towards INFINITY WAR and ENDGAME Now the MCU became one big bubble, ready to burst

I still wish that the OG Ant-Man got to be directed by Edgar Wright.

I'm part of a dying breed who actually seems to enjoy the MCU nowadays. I'm a big comic nerd so it might just be that setting me apart from the rest of the crowd, but that probably isn't all of it. I liked eternals. I was a bit disappointed by gorr in thor 4 but his character in that movie served that movie well, even if he wasn't adapted well from the comics run which I do adore (check out pillar of garbage's video on gorr if you wanna know what I mean by this, he expresses it pretty well). For me, phase 4 really wasn't bad. And everything they've announced so far seems good. I've listened to a lot of criticism of phase 4, and none of it really seems to stick. Half the time, people are arguing directly contradictory things and it just made it hard to understand what people disliked about it, certainly not enough evidence to make me dislike it. And nowadays, people have basically moved on from trying to make a coherent argument and just talk about how the MCU is dead and everything they make is garbage as if that's like an established fact. It's just exhausting. Thanks for being so positive about ant man, I'm not really directing this at you FFV, this is more just me venting some frustrations

The Ant-Man movies are easily some of my favorite Marvel movies, with Ant-Man and the Wasp possibly being in the top ten. They are much smaller and more personal than the majority of MCU world threats and I love pretty much every single main character in them.

I definitely don't agree with the first Ant-Man being a dull outlier in its phase. It was a fun heist movie that had lower-stakes and still retained some Edgar Wright DNA. While I rate the sequel lower than other movies, there's no way that it's worse than Thor 2 and Iron Man 2. I'm pretty sure the director even said he doesn't want people to see Quntumania as an afterthought like many did for the first two movies.

1:03 "held the trophy for worst MCU movie" I've never heard that before

The Ant-man fight sequences in the first movie, particularly the toy one in the the first movie, were really creative, and I think that was a major misstep for Ant-man and the Wasp.

Honestly after only hearing bad things about Ant Man & the sequel I finally watched them in preparation for Quantumania and I feel like everybody is crazy. They are both super fun movies, the first one is just a solid heist movie and I had NO idea about the actual ants... and then the second movie was a little goofier but still very enjoyable, moved along at a solid pace, and Ghost was portrayed in a pretty visually interesting way. Both of them were way better than the vocal cultural opinion seemed to suggest.

Antman and Wasp was the worst mcu for a few years? Who was voting on that? Thor dark world clears that by a mile.

I'm still gutted that we never saw what Wright had in mind for Ant Man