Amazing Performance: Chameleon Tactical Delta Loop Antenna Revisited

12,387
0
Publicado 2024-03-13
3 years ago I did a review of the Chameleon Tactical Delta Loop antenna. At that time I had a mediocre feeling towards it. But taking a 2nd look, I am totally impressed on how this amazing antenna performs on the upper bands.

Chameleon CHA TDl (Tactical Delta Loop Antenna): chameleonantenna.com/shop-here/ols/products/cha-td…
Tripod Quick Release Plate: amzn.to/3IBaAJI
Chameleon 3/8 to 1/4 inch thread tripod adapter: chameleonantenna.com/shop-here/ols/products/cha-tr…
Yaesu FT-891 transceiver: amzn.to/3RSg4DO
Heil Ham Radio BM-17 Dual headset: heilhamradio.com/product/bm-17-2/

How I record my contact audio:    • Audio recording in the field. A ham r...  
My headset trigger switch:    • Ham Radio How To: Build a Headset Tri...  

As a bonus, patrons can view the full, unedited phone contacts for this Parks on the Air activation. Visit my page on Patreon for details: www.patreon.com/kb9vbrantennas

I do return QSL, if you made a contact with me and would like a QSL, please send me one. Return postage not necessary, but always appreciated. As they say, KB9VBR is 'good in the book.



************
Links may be affiliate links. As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases. This does not affect the price you pay.
*************

Like what you see? You can leave me a tip:
www.paypal.me/kb9vbr

KB9VBR VHF/UHF Antennas:
www.jpole-antenna.com/

Become a patron! Unlock exclusive content at: www.patreon.com/kb9vbrantennas

Support Ham Radio Q&A by shopping at Amazon: amzn.to/2kO6LH7

My Parks on the Air setup:
Transceiver: amzn.to/3lmHoei
Battery: amzn.to/3xBGgbv
Tuner: amzn.to/2ZCNM9l
Folding Table: amzn.to/3xFIp5Z
Throw Weight: amzn.to/32QW2nB

Video Production Equipment:
Camera amzn.to/32UaXNX
Lens amzn.to/31mmDrX
Wireless Microphone: amzn.to/3xFVBb4
Microphone: amzn.to/3daoAdq
GoPro: amzn.to/3pkmP30

Music by license:
www.soundstripe.com/

Contact Information:
Questions, comments, or business inquiries may be directed to [email protected]. If you wish for your product to be featured on my channel, please contact me.

#Hamradio #AmateurRadio #POTA #ParksOnTheAir #PortableHamRadio #chameleonantenna #tacticaldeltaloop #loopantenna #HFantenna #portableantenna #chatdl #DXantenna

Todos los comentarios (21)
  • @chrisazure1624
    I made something similar. I used two CB whips, a Cameleon on one end, wire, mueller clips and a Wolf River Ottophone Y, and WR coil on other whip (tunes antenna). I got a low SWR on several bands. I called it my Franken-tenna.
  • @n3rdglass
    heard you on 20m pota today while i was at a park, i tried getting through the pileup for 15 minutes but wasn't able to this time. my 3rd pota activation, wouldn't have happened without the help from your videos. i'll get that qso with you one day! thanks for the great videos! 73
  • The CHA delta loop consists of two 17 foot telescoping whips, a mystery transformer and some wire. Two 17 foot telescoping whips could make up a 1/2 wave dipole on 20 meters, and be adjusted for any band of higher frequency in the HF spectrum and low VHF. Two of these whips can be had from MFJ for much less than the $400 that CHA is asking for the delta. The thing to remember with antennas is this golden rule: Anything that is not antenna wire, antenna aluminum or antenna whip is loss to some degree. This includes the coax, twin lead, tuner, and most certainly traps, baluns, and "mystery" transformers. The objective is to minimize or manage the loss by making smart decisions with these parts. The other golden rule goes like this: Antennas can operate continuously over a wide frequency range (so not resonant or multi-resonant on discreet frequencies) either because 1) they are one of the variations of a log periodic design 2) they are one of the variations of a cone, conical, biconical, fractal design 3) they have a tuned circuit that is variable (tuned either by a microprocessor or operator) 4) because they have resistance either across the feed point or from the ends to ground. #1 and #2 are usually relatively large antennas and you see them typically at military, government and commercial sites. #3 and #4 are typically what we must consider when going portable, or operating with modest conditions. The CHA Loop can only be #4. You claim, now that the sunspot cycle is peaking that "this antenna is a performer". Now that the sun spot cycle is peaking, almost everything works! One has to ask, would you have done as well, or better with a simple dipole or something like a buddy-pole. Would the two 17 foot telescoping whips configured as a simple dipole without the mystery transformer done as well or better? Would the simple wire dipole or telescoping whip dipole done better than the CHA loop a few years ago when the sunspot cycle wasn't peaking? If the answer is yes, then the CHA loop really its not that good is it?
  • @carlosroig5315
    A wire delta loop requires more setup time, a telescopic mast or tree. A vee dipole made with two telescopic whips, a Wolf River Coil and a piece of wire with alligator clips is an option but remember, you have to go and change the tap on the coil when changing bands. For Parks on the Air, no big deal, you change bands as soon as you complete the necessary contacts on each band. The Chameleon TDL is a different concept, more focused on emergency communications, fast setup, no coil tapping, etc. It is a field expedient ( tactical ) antenna. MFJ sells the Big Ears ( 2289 ) which uses two 17 feet telescopic whips, one loading coil and a V shaped center support. It sells for $249 but like most MFJ products, it's a bit fragile. MFJ whips break easily if not handled with care. Chameleon whips are much more rugged. You get what you pay for. Just my two cents. Thank you Michael for the follow up video and overall impressions. 73's
  • @markgrennan5855
    I have this antenna. I was outside in the rain, now and wind (OK) for months. It still looks and works like new. It has always worked well on all bands (with a Xigue G90) for POTA and home use. I've just suck it in the ground.
  • @johngriswold
    But with a $30 4:1, 40m of wire and the mast you already have… This antenna is obscenely overpriced.
  • @goodoz9942
    I like mine, for sure....made a contact on 17 in Slovenia while the TDL was secured to the top of the ladder on my camper (gulf coast location). I've also had some medium range QSOs on 40 (out to 800-900 miles). I wish I had a radio buddy 250 to 450 miles away so I could experiment with NVIS. Expensive antenna...but I'm glad it's in my kit. Notable, the TDL can be set up on the ground spike in just a couple of minutes.
  • @MrStanwyck
    Great review Michael. I’m just waiting on my second CHA SS17 to arrive so I can assemble the TDL antenna on top of the Chameleon 12 foot fiberglass mast I have. Have a good evening….. Bill KC2KNA
  • @markk7mwj37
    Glad you did this. I have also had mine put away for a while. I have two 12' tall - when extended - light stands for stage lighting I want to use the TDL up and see if it performs better than stuck in the dirt! Thanks, Mike
  • @N4GW
    It performs so well It has become my goto antenna
  • @thelostiowan
    I use this setup alot -- even with the CHA MAST here in Minnesota and have gotten great reports. I found 40 meters for me, was better when elevated on the mast as compared to the ground. 73's Don
  • @K4GDS
    I had a park to park with you that day (K-0896 to K-1447). The interesting part is that I was using a Chameleon TDL connected to an FT-891 also. K4GDS
  • @walteredwards544
    The good thing about the TDL, you can reconfigure the antenna to a standard vertical and get all the DX you want.( just add more counterpoise wire or add radials)
  • @andyM7XTT
    Great video Mike,looks like people actually wait for you to call qrz instead of all jumping in when you do pota.am going to do my first park in couple of weeks time,nervous but looking forward to it .73 mate from 🇬
  • @johnkaelberer237
    Yes, a youtuber did a test of the Chameleon 5 to 1 transformer. "Survivalcomms" Chameleon Snake Oill video. As you well know, broadband antennas are very lossy. Your first test of the Chameleon was correct and is what to be expected from the Chameleon when the cycle is not near its peak. Overpriced and under performing.
  • @chuckrann9784
    Try this antenna with a second tripod and delta loop config as a reflector. Spaced accordingly for band. I’ll bet you get a 5-6 db+ gain. I made a 1 wave link loop antenna for 10 meters back in the 80’s that gave me +10 db in Europe. Lost it in a derecho storm. Itching to re create it now. Thanks for the great videos. 73.
  • @rec929
    What about grounding the antenna ? If you have any antenna on tripods, is it necessary to ground ? I know radials aren’t needed … thanks !! 73 from Costa Rica
  • Were you just intermittently logging that park...LOL. Great reviews!!!
  • @johnkaelberer237
    Congrats Michael, you just proved that when the solar conditions are great, you can make decent contacts with a highly compromised antenna. When the conditions are good, you can make decent contacts with almost anything. The TDL antenna starts with losing at least 6 db in the 5 to 1 transformer and then on 20 meters looses even more with the SWR over 2 to 1. Most tactical work is done at 20 meters and lower, not higher. At $400.00 plus, I just don't see any reason to buy this antenna. There are so many other antennas that will do far better for much less money. Just think how much better your contact map would have looked like with a really good $50. to $200. antenna.