PCGS IS TRASH

Cleaned or Polished ~ that 1897 Morgan (4:18) was harshly messed with and deserved a DETAILS grading at the very least. Tbh, I'm surprised you even sent that one in to be graded. Those scratches, regardless of the cause, make it an ugly coin.

I can see being upset about the lack of attribution for VAM’s, but in my opinion, all of them that were graded as cleaned were cleaned. Look closely at about 2 o’clock on that 1885-O right behind Liberty’s head at about 5:58 to 6:02 of this video, as an example. I think those fine scratches there were what they identified as being cleaned versus the scuff marks in front of Liberty’s face. The customer service you described, though, was horrible, and I understand why you’re done with them.

If someone polished it trying to add luster it's the same to me as cleaning it................

Those are scratched all to hell Fields are not clean 🪥

Looking at the trueview for the 87-P nickel, it clearly isn't full steps. PCGS was correct. ANACS may have different (lower) standards. The steps are really "chewy" and need to not have any marks or interrupts which yours clearly has. For the Morgans, did you check the box and pay $20 for the variety Attribution? If so then you can call customer service and they'll pay for shipping both ways and add the attribution. They don't do it for free. If you didn't pay, then you don't get the attribution. The 97-s is cleaned. If there's any hint of cleaning, they call it cleaned. PCGS made the right call.

The 1897s looks like it was clean with a wire brush to me .and I’ve been doing work in Morgan’s for 40 yrs.

They are big on "questionable color" at pcgs. I sent something in 20 days ago, and all they did so far was marked received. Is anyone quicker?

I have never submitted coins until back in November when I was at a coin show in Chattanooga. I submitted them to ANACS. I had been waiting to for a while between the 3. I decided to go with ANACS and not NGC or PCGS because of the price, long turn around, and you have to join their club crap. I have began to believe that a lot of the things you hear bad about ANACS is probably from the other 2. So I went with ANACS.

I have coins slabbed by PCGS that have the wrong year. How do you fuck that up? That’s just the year!

PCSG ms62 is less than it's worth the cost. You get what you pay for

1897s yes that's cleaning not die polish lines. Congrats on your video but you should use this as a learning experience and not a rant. I send coins all the time and they grade straight. It's rare I get questionable color. There are numismatic books that can help you. I know your trying hard here and I'm here to help if you want it thx

U have to call pcgs at 7am or youre never getting through

The 1897 s has clearly been cleaned

Bro, that 1897S looks heavily cleaned. There's a big difference between die polish marks and cleaning. The polishing was done on the dies, so the "scratches" will be raised, but when its cleaned the lines are scratched into the metal

You have to pay the $18 for a variation to be designated. PCGS will not give one otherwise. You could send in a 1955 double die Lincoln cent and if you don't pay the extra amount you will have it slabbed as a 1955 Lincoln cent with it's grade only.

Thanks for sharing because I was going to go to CAC for grading but now I'm not. Also, I had a 1921s Morgan Dollar that was already graded by ICG at MS66 and I took it to PCGS and they bumped it all the way down to DAMAGE and AU. I lost $12k dealing with PCGS and now my coin is only worth about $27. I think I will go with ANACS or NGC. I will definitely stay away from PCGS and CAC unless I'm just getting a sticker from CAC to go along with ANACS or NGC grading.

What were those coins cleaned with? Sandpaper?

Collecting "RAW" coins is always a crap shoot unless you are good at recognizing cleaned coins.

On your submission did you check the attributes box? You have to pay for it. PCGS use to put attributes on a libel like ‘ Bugs Bunny’ but now you have to specify you want attributes.

You are not the only one getting screwed by PCGS. I sent in 5 conditional rarities and they didn't give one stamp designation ( Full steps/ Full bands, etc) Sent 2 in on new order without the error designation. They got the stamp designation but they lowered the grades!!! Gonna call today to complain. How can a Jefferson nickel go from Ms 66 to Ms64 in a month!