Opinion: Madonna - Finally, a Real Feminist | The New York Times

It is great to hear someone who is speaking on the absolute brilliance of Madonna.

Paglia has always been way ahead of everyone. Rock on, Camille.

This woman is one of my favourite people alive.

It's interesting to see Paglia talk about feminism. She actually seems to be genuinely open minded to more views than just one. I think feminist close mindedness has been detrimental to the movement. It's hard to gain traction when only one view is adopted. Good for her.

Your are so right! Though I don't think you went far enough. Madonna actual showcased third-wave feminism AS SOON ASSHE CAME OUT...not just when she hooked up with male filmmakers. She hit the scene as an AUTONOMOUS punk/hip-hop influenced FIREBRAND. That is why she was so sensational (in every sense of the word)...she was left alone to do what she wanted musically (because they didn't think she'd be huge...because she didn't have a huge singing voice) and she proved to be successful on her own charisma and her own sexual freedom and TOUGHNESS. Here was a beautiful young artist who came out BRASH AND COCKY but still approachable and soft when SHE WANTED TO BE. She kicked open the door Deborah Harry, Nina Simone and Joan Jettcracked open...she did dance music, rock, pop and r&b and refused categorization. In 1985 when they tried to shame her with her nudes to shut her up. She shrugged and said SO WHAT and became even more popular. The 90s riot-girrrl movement in punk rock that spat in the face of misogyny has it's roots in madonna's sexually liberated and feminine approach. Sonic youth and Mike Watt made a tribute album to madonna in the 80s called Ciccone Youth...they saw the future that the riot girrls made a reality in the 90s. Madonna was graffiti and cocky self-assured fun from hip-hop and barrier smashing iconoclastic WORK from punk. She is the Blueprint of modern artists and modern feminism . Lace and all 😊

Camille remains ahead of us all. Her brilliance is unmatched!

Madonna is such an incredible artist. Very inspiring.

I am a man and I love Paglia.

@8tentacles I guess because she is enthusiastically communicating what she feels has been a long time coming and is just really excited.

Paglia is forever brilliant!

As in feel good on the inside, look good on the outside. If you're confident and empowered, it shows.If you feel sexy, you are sexy.

It's how she talks. Sure it can be annoying, the speed and volume, but the content is sound.

Could you imagine being in one of her classes?! I'd have to snort a line a cocaine to write notes as fast as she talks!

what does she say between Visconti and Antonioni? Bleakness of what?

I LOVE CAMILLE PAGLIA! I CAN LISTEN TO HER TALK FOREVER!

Viva la Paglia! ...as great an admirer as I am of her (I read "Sexual Personae" at 16, and what "The Second Sex" was to Paglia at the same age, "Sexual Personae" was to me– an intellectual revelation), I feel here– as in many other instances– she might be OVER-estimating her influence...

Yes!

Surprise... Only... The return of gentleness and tenderness... To restore serenity... To have dreams... Thanks to her beauty... Her mystical ... femininity... ....Aronne

so when she said Madonna get back women with her sexuality??

WOOT!