DEEP & DARK SEASONS - Aren't they the Same?? Apparently Not.

This is very interesting but it's hard for me to keep track of which is which without seeing the deep vs dark colour palettes side by side and more examples of faces to compare.

Yes! A vid on misconceptions in color analyses would be very interesting!

makes sense, I've always found the 'dark winter must wear deep lip colours' rule strange as there is so much evidence of celebrities put in that season being flattered by nude lips better - I would say Kim Kardashian is a good example of this. it also links to the theory that some dark winters can integrate soft summer shades into their wardrobe as their 'base' shades, that can be used as contrast with their deeper shades. i'm somewhere between dark winter and soft summer myself, i've settled on dark summer but this version of dark winter sounds like it could also work for me. i think the spectrum approach is especially helpful for those of us who don't resonate fully with one season

Yep, the most common problem I see with the 12 season system is people who are cool, high contrast, and need soft colors. There is no category for them. They will automatically be put in winter instead of summer because of their dark hair, but winter is overall high chroma, and they are not. In reality, some people need dark vibrant colors, and other people need dark muted colors. But 12 seasons just automatically assigns vibrancy to high contrast cool folks, and softness to high contrast warm folks. Which seems completely arbitrary. Anyway, I like Miriam Style's system of cool/warm, radiant/delicate, high/low contrast. You can be any combination of those three factors, and it's pretty strait forward. Also, in spite of what everybody learns in school, the primary colors aren't red yellow and blue. They are more like yellow cyan and magenta for pigment, blue red and green for light, and red, green, yellow, and blue for our eye's color receptors. That actually makes color analysis simpler, because cool colors are on the blue end, and warm colors are on the yellow end. Greens and reds can lean warm or cool.

Interesting, using the outfit rule, I'd be a deep autumn rather than a dark autumn. I tend to look better in all dark outfits than dark and light, and when there is something light, its best if its in multiple places in my outfit separated in space. Saturation actually looks quite good on me as long as its also dark. I didn't realize how good I looked in red for the longest time, since most reds you can buy are really bright tomato reds. Dark red can still look very saturated but was weirdly hard to find as a single color (not part of a pattern) in clothing.

Good point. When I was younger, I had nearly black hair with very fair skin and hazel eyes. I’ve had a hard time fitting into a season. I had my colors done and came out a Summer, which was a shock. However, I’ve come to realize that I’m on a spectrum between Summer and Winter. Black is too harsh next to my face,and really vivid colors are too much. But pastels don’t do it either. I now color my hair a medium ash brown due to my age, but I still need some medium-high contrast. So the palettes are a good guideline, but shouldn’t be a jail cell.

The disclaimer is so important. I'm a deep winter and have lips so narrow that they end where my nostrils do, and my nose, while prominent, isn't wide at all. I never got why most lipstick shades AND no lipstick looked off on me - I can only pull a nude+ shade. It was your video with both Kylie and Bebe that explains it - my volume is closer to Bebe than OG Kylie, probably along the lines of fillered-up Kylie, but the narrowness makes it as much of a minefield as thin lips, but nobody warned me before.

Finding out I’m a dark autumn has been life changing. There’s a whole new vibrancy in my overall appearance. I always thought I was a dark winter (black dyed hair) and found “bright” in general, looked off. I’ve fallen so in love with this palette, excited to buy new clothes!

Love this , I'm Deep Autumn in the 12 colour season system and soft autumn deep in the 16 and clearly dark autumn in the 20 colour seasons. This really describes me , I look great in charcoal and washed black but not clear black and look even better if the washed black is complimented by a medium to light warm and soft colour like light chocolate , camel or cream. I think the 20 season system maybe easier to understand.Thank you for this, I really love your videos , so easy to follow , understand and very informative and interesting. 👏X

This way of understanding Color Analysis is so Refreshing because it is both super helpful and new❣ It makes sense and is offers insights not covered by others! 🌟

so helpful! Dark autumn explains why while warm, more saturated greens look good on me, Kelly green (that's a high clarity color, right?) is not my best color. Would love to see you do this kind of analysis as to what happens to your color family as your hair greys - particularly if you are a soft person with not a lot of strong defining features. I'm finding grey hair totally washes me out, and that neither the coolness of the grey, nor lightening my hair to any kind of blond (blond does not go with my skin) works.

This really helps! I've been struggling with my autumn subseason because some of the dark/deep autumn colors are too strong/bright, but many of the soft autumn colors lack the contrast I need. I am dark because light lipsticks don't provide enough contrast on my face. I have the kind of eyes you don't want to draw too much attention so I need the contrast on my lips to balance it out. Plus I just look frumpy without contrast in my clothes.

I think I'm deep winter or autumn (I feel l look good on both temperatures). My best colors are dark with mid-to-high saturation, like jewel tones, those look great for me. Light or very muted colors look terrible on me. Actually yesterday I was trying out a bottle green blouse compared to a peach one and my mom was surprised to see how the lighter one actually made my eyebags darker and the dark blouse made them look lighter and smoother. This was really helpful, thanks Jen!

I always learn so much from your videos. All the different nuances of face shapes and color. Thank you for another great video.

Thank you for this wonderful video explaining the difference between deep and dark seasons! I cannot express my gratitude for the videos you have shared explaining the nuances between colour seasons and colour systems! I hope you are enjoying the chilly autumn weather here in Toronto! ❤

your videos are the highlight of my fridays, thanks for making fridays more interesting ❤️❤️

The info you share is mind-blowing! Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge to help us/me understand why something looks off. You have an amazing skill of explaining complex concepts in such an easy way.

Thank you for putting so much effort into your videos, it makes them very high quality :)

Ah, I had to rewatch this when I wasn’t as tired as I was the first time through, but now I’ve got it! I’m definitely a deep winter. Thank you for your excellent explanations and examples! This was really cool!! 🖤

Hi Jenn! And hello to your pom! 🥰 I always love his little random cameos. 😄 And I always enjoy watching your videos! Hope you have a great weekend! (One of these days I’m going to book a session with you! 😉)