Missing 411, Or Murdered By Moonshiners?

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Published 2024-07-05
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Way back in 1919, before the Great Smoky Mountains had a national park, a young boy by the name of Abe Lincoln Ramsey disappeared from his family's farm in Cosby, Tennessee. What happened next really depends on who you ask, and I have to say, this was one of the worst Missing 411 stories I've ever come across; not because it's strange, but because it's a remarkably bad account of the true story.

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0:00 - Intro and Ad
3:25 - The National Park Service
8:27 - The Story of Abe Ramsey
13:55 - What Really Happened

All Comments (21)
  • @TheLoreLodge
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  • @garnetbelial
    "I assume if you're still here you want the history part" me nodding furiously.
  • @lloydlloyd3236
    "We have plenty of cases to cover, do not make more" That was really funny
  • @CamBoone
    Here in WNC, the question “have you or do you drink moonshine more than once a year” was legitimately used by physicians and practitioners to determine whether a patient may be a “problem drinker” or not. The logic being that no one would drink moonshine without their primary goal being intoxication. 😂
  • @KibuFox
    Short answer: Probably not. Longer answer: Moonshiners, even in the early days of the practice, were rather well known in their local communities. To the point that everyone and their brother in the community would know who was the moonshiners. Meaning that some rando kid wandering into a moonshiner's still, even if it's from someone outside of the community, wouldn't warrant a murder. What point would there be, from the moonshiner's perspective, of drawing even more attention to the surrounding area?
  • @SgtBuck01
    A child witnessing moonshiners is like a chicken witnessing a murder in Skyrim.
  • @jackyp6712
    As the residential Michigander here, it's pronounced Mack-i-naw. I'll give you a pass on this one 😅
  • @AJOlaks
    potential moonshiner murder is not what I expected to be covered this week
  • @audreyyork9633
    It doesn't matter, really, but Aidan: rawboned (or raw-boned, or raw bone) is a descriptive word(s) meaning skinny, gaunt, or scrawny. So it's possible the source really did mean to type that about the dog. [Edited for clarity]
  • @mariettavol774
    The ol’ saying goes “Once two strangers climbed ol' Rocky Top Lookin' for a moonshine still Strangers ain't come down from Rocky Top Reckon they never will” Go Vols
  • @thatgoblin5739
    When you start out liking 411, but then slowly turn into it's archenemy. Best villain origin story ever.
  • It's always refreshing to find a channel that doesn't thrive on sensationalism. Thanks for continuing to demystify and "de-bigfootize" these cases. I never miss an episode.
  • Two things, It struck me as weird that a 3 year old would go off looking for the dog after it hadn't returned for a while, toddlers seem to live more in the moment so chasing it as it ran would make sense but i don't think they have the capacity yet to say "hmm the dog has been missing a while I should go find him." However the fact that he was following his siblings makes alot of sense in the regard. Anyway second thing please tell me we're getting"Bigfussy" shirts
  • @Eon_Black
    Youtube randomly recommended a killdozer video to me about an hour ago, and now I am subscribed and waiting for a premiere. Good stuff!
  • @randallsavage13
    David wants there to be more to a story than there actually is. Because most of the time the boring non spooky true doesn’t get the attention that something strange does
  • @greypolar2720
    "Two roads diverged in a wood, and I, I took the one less traveled by, and that has made all the difference."
  • Some thoughts on cause of death, least important aspect of the case. I'm happy to provide citations if anyone wants to go down the spider/snake/poison rabbit hole after me. There aren't really spider species with medically significant venom in that area—particularly not ones which are inclined to bite. What does track for cause of death would be a snake bite, of which there are several very well camouflaged and quite defensive species hanging out. Some of those species share characteristics and behavior with snake species that are safe (enough) to bother. There are plenty of attractive looking plants and fungi which show up in the smokies as well, including some species which are safe to eat cooked but not raw—a differentiation a hungry toddler might not make on his own. (This has been your weekly engagement comment by me, brought to you by creepy crawly enjoyers against spider slander.)
  • @mellowyello9797
    Live on the same Reservation as Sully’s Hill, ND, Now known as White Horse Hill. There’s a lot of ongoing missing person cases in our community that I think would interest you. Your indigenous history sections surprised me, when I first started watching your channel. Have been an avid viewer for months, never left a comment. Thank you for keeping up you and your team’s amazing work.
  • @tonyfroman4382
    Moonshine and moonshine distilling equipment? I believe you mean he sold Moonshine and Moonshine Accessories
  • @Trivial_Whim
    The “my shot killed him” thing is psychologically. It’s a guilty thing, not a logic one.