WTF Happened to The Dark Knight Rises?

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Published 2023-02-08
How do you follow up the greatest superhero movie ever made? This was the dilemma director Christopher Nolan was faced with when he made his third and final instalment in his Batman trilogy, The Dark Knight Rises. While Batman Begins had been a solid critical and commercial hit, The Dark Knight was a cultural phenomenon, with many proclaiming it the greatest superhero movie ever made, a status it’s managed to hold on to fifteen years later.

However, Nolan faced many issues, the most notable of which was that his iconic Joker, Heath Ledger, had tragically passed away before The Dark Knight hit theaters. Recasting the role was a non-starter, so they would have to find another equally impressive villain. They ended up settling on Bane, who would be played by Tom Hardy, whose star was on the rise following his acclaimed turn in the Nicolas Winding Refn film, Bronson and a key role in Nolan’s own Inception. The cast would include Anne Hathaway as The Catwoman, while Marion Cottilard (another Inception veteran) would join, alongside the returning Christian Bale, Michael Caine and Gary Oldman.

While a financial hit, The Dark Knight Rises would be a lightning rod for controversy even before it was released. An early prelude played before Mission: Impossible - Ghost Protocol in IMAX featured the Movie’s opening scene with Bane, but no one could understand Hardy’s muffled dialogue. It was a criticism that carried over to the film itself and would become a sticking point for Nolan films, in general, going forward. Many fans would criticize the movie, while others would call it underrated. In this episode of WTF Happened to this Movie (written by Brad Hamerly, edited by Juan Jimenez and narrated by Mathew Plale) we dig into the Movie’s making and controversial reception.

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All Comments (21)
  • I remember being an extra during the football scene. And that heat wave was no joke. They brought us tons of water to drink. And my girlfriend at the time passed out from the heat. They kept us entertained by showing off the tumblers and doing Batman Trivia. Despite all that, I loved being there and watching how the sausage was made. I remember Nolan getting on mic, thanking everyone for their patience, saying “god, it’s so hot here.” I still have my set pass somewhere.
  • @LetsGetitBoah
    Man, seeing more Joker would have been so cool. We lost a truly great actor with Heath. RIP
  • Thank you Hans Zimmer for your unforgettable score to the Batman trilogy, and you too James N Howard. Cheers.
  • @jfh400
    I live in Pittsburgh and worked in a building overlooking one of the main filming streets during filming. It was absolutely wild seeing tumblers out the window and cars with Gotham license plates on the way to lunch. The big metal gate that the prisoners break through was added by the production crew but the stone arch it fits into is a real structure, it's just the entrance to an alleyway. I used to drive through it every day to get to our parking garage but we had to detour for like a month because of that damn gate :)
  • @kungfew1396
    I love each movie in this trilogy and I think it captured the spirit of The Dark knight comic better than any of the others.
  • Its sad that we could have gotten a very different movie with more Joker. However, I really liked DKR. Tom Hardy as Bane is so much fun and Anne Hathaway was great as Catwoman.
  • @siimtokke3461
    It's just mind-blowing how influential Nolan is. He just says "I want [insert actor or actress] for [insert role]" and the studio will comply. Not like Disney which will force the director to do the studio's vision and cast the actors and actresses the studio wants.
  • @Batman88878
    I happen to still love this movie. Sometimes, I go back & forth on whether this or Begins is better, but I think it did a lot of things right, including restoring Bruce as the emotional focus of the film. And that 1st Batman/Bane fight is still good! I don't know why I didn't think Nolan would actually re-create the back breaking from the comics, but when I saw it, I was in a half smile/half shocked look. And Anne Hathaway's Catwoman wasn't bad at all. She had more of the sensuality in her voice than Zoe Kravitz. I liked her suit being a mixture of the mid-00s comics & Julie Newmar. And I'm on board with this version of Bane. After what we got in Batman & Robin, this was definitely an upgrade.
  • @Redsnowman04
    This movie was the start of my actual life journey. It marks the beginning of a big story for me in my life.
  • @Jason-wp7ed
    You can tell by how he treats his team, making them eager to want to work with him again, his loyalty & respect to the legend who gave his life to bring his vision alive, & respect to the people who loves his films, Nolan isn’t in it just for the paycheck. Dude has respect for the craft & loves what he does, which is another reason he deserves & earns all the praise he receives.
  • Seriously, Nolan's use of Bane as Bruce's antithesis - what Bruce could have been had he gone down a different path - goes totally underappreciated and overlooked. It was the perfect way to close the story, building on so many themes set up from the very first movie while also continuing directly from the second.
  • @mg19cal
    I have to say, I feel sorry for anybody who didn't see this film in IMAX. It was truly an experience
  • I've always loved that hand on shoulder thing Hardy did, it made it so intimidating. And Mendelsohns reacting is just muah
  • @Jared_Wignall
    This is my favorite film of the trilogy and my favorite Batman film honestly. I love how it comes full circle with the trilogy to tie things together. Christian Bale has always been my favorite Bruce Wayne/Batman as he puts his all into the role in each film in the trilogy and here he truly cements being the absolute best Batman/Bruce Wayne for me. Getting all three sides of the character down to a T. Batman is where Bruce Wayne’s anger and pain goes when he is out as Batman, the Playboy Billionaire version of Bruce Wayne that the public sees as someone who’s good a business, yet is also selfish and a womanizer and the real Bruce Wayne that only few people like Alfred and Fox see throughout each installment of the trilogy. I never minded his voice and in the last two films of the trilogy, they added an effect to his voice as Nolan wanted Batman to sound darker than in Batman Begins, but Bale couldn’t do that naturally while not killing his voice, so they edited his voice in post. Gary Oldman is the best Commissioner Gordon as well, truly shines whenever he’s on screen as does Michael Caine as Alfred Pennyworth. Seeing Caine and Bale interact is always great, same with Morgan Freeman as Lucious Fox. These two characters really do their best to ensure Bruce stays as grounded as possible. Tom Hardy is excellent as Bane and while Heath Ledger’s Joker may be a better villain, Hardy defiantly holds his own against Bale’s Batman/Wayne and is truly menacing and intimidating. Anne Hathaway plays Selina Kyle/Catwoman to perfection as doing what she can to survive and also trying to get away out of the situation she’s in and in hopes for a better life. Joseph Gordon-Levitt as John Blake is an excellent addition to this universe as a cop, promoted to detective doing what he can to help keep the city safe once all hell breaks loose. And Marion Cotillard does a very good job as Miranda Tate, a character who seems to be a love interest for Bruce, yet until the end of the film, you can’t help but think she’s hiding something from most of the principled characters. Cillian Murphy returns as Jonathan Crane/Scarecrow in a couple scenes and does a great job as the appointed judge in the Kangaroo Court. Christopher Nolan and company truly made sure that the trilogy ended with a way that was satisfying to wrap everything up and I remember 10 years ago seeing this film and wanting it to be good and have a good ending to the trilogy and I have to say this film did that for me then and still succeeds in being a satisfying ending. It’s a film that as time goes on, I notice more and more people seem to enjoy it more, maybe not to the point of thinking it’s the best of the trilogy like I do, but are able to see it for what it is. What people say are problems aren’t really problems as they’re often call backs to the other films in the trilogy, primarily Batman Begins. If everything was explained and the film was over 3 hours then people would complain about that. Because Nolan treats everyone who sees it as smart and having seen the previous films in the trilogy, we aren’t need to be shown every detail that would tell us how things tie back with the previous films, even when the trilogy wasn’t really planned from the beginning. I know Nolan did mention early on when writing Batman Begins with David Goyer about making a trilogy, but that was as far as it went for him. I know his wife Emma Thomas and Christian Bale have said things that sort of indicate that he had an idea of where he wanted Bruce Wayne to be if he got to make more than one Batman film and if they were lucky, they would get to make three Batman films and Nolan decided to make each film the best film he could at the time as if it was the only Batman film or the last Batman film he’d ever get to make and so he really made sure to not have much, if any sort of major cliffhanger at the end of the films, only open endings where there’s an ending to the film but no guarantee of a follow up, which really nails home the fact that Nolan never plans for sequels to his films. With the exception of this trilogy, all of the rest of Nolan’s films are stand alone films with no sequels. Even with two sequels to Batman Begins, Nolan makes sure to give his films an open ending to each of them where we want more, but are satisfied with what we have. I know people have said Heath Ledger was supposed to be in the third film and Heath Ledgers sister mentioned how Heath said he had hopes of returning for a sequel to The Dark Knight and while he and Nolan may have discussed what could happen with the Joker after the film, once he died he was never mentioned for a follow up ever again. And the earliest of Nolan saying or mentioning anything of a third film in any serious manor was back in December of 2008, around the time The Dark Knight was out on Blu-Ray and DVD, as it was revealed that he had completed a story outline for a third Batman film, which of course would never feature the Joker out of respect for Heath Ledger. I don’t really blame anyone for thinking Ledger was supposed to be in a third film as it seems to be a combination of hearsay with no actual definitive quote from Nolan saying this being the case and Heath Ledgers sister mentioning how he wanted to do another Batman film as the Joker, but whatever he and Nolan discussed about any potential future for the character beyond The Dark Knight never happened for obvious reasons and when he revealed he had a outline for a third Batman film, that was almost a full year after Ledger’s passing, so the Joker defiantly would never be in the cards for a third film that Nolan would make at that point. Honestly, all three films also look and feel timeless, which I think helps the re-watchability as sometimes films like this can look and feel like the time it was made and released and that doesn’t always help a film long term. I also think the story in the trilogy gets better with each film. That’s not going to be the consensus for everyone obviously, but I went in to this wanting the film to not only be good but to be a fitting end to the trilogy and it met those expectations I had and more. This film is great and I’m glad to see others talk about this film more positively over the years. Thank you for this video and apologies for the length of the comment. I really love this film and it’s nice to see more people talk about the good it has rather than what’s perceived to be bad, even if many of those things are just nitpicks at the end of the day and don’t really effect the film or trilogy as a whole.
  • @jacobkirk1846
    A sequel trilogy based on Batman Beyond with Robin Blake as Batman with a Mission Impossible type feel to it could be awesome. Bale could return as an Alfred type of supporting role, being Robin’s trainer, mentor, and man in the chair.