Is This The End of TikTok?

The lumping of Ukrainian aid and banning Tiktok into a single bill reminds me of that bit in The Simpsons, where a bill to destroy a comet headed for Springfield is going to pass, until a congressman amends it to add federal funding for pornography, condemning the "Save Springfield and Perverted Arts Bill" to a landslide defeat.

You have to remember this isn’t unusual. China banned YouTube, lol.

Why sell to American investors? Couldn’t they sell to a company in any country that doesn’t have laws like the 1993 one you mentioned?

3:45 All things aside this graph is pretty disingenuous. The y-axis says it’s a 1-3 scale, but it’s been truncated to start at 1.97 and goes only to 2.13

I'm not going to weigh in on whether banning TikTok is consistent with Freedom of Speech or if it is a worthy exception, as well as if it's truly a slippery slope or not. All I will say is that I find the rhetoric about teenage mental health and the whole Palestine argument around it to be equally if not more applicable to YouTube. That is to say, there's far more underlying reasons for it than just content suppression and/or algorithms cleating echo-chambers.

I can't believe we've been discussing this for as long as we have.

as someone who was in university in 2016, before tiktok was even a thing, pro-Palestine sentiment among young people is aggressively NOT a new thing

If certain contents don't appear on that platform, it doesn't directly mean it is controlled by Chinese gov. Companies in China are known to self-censor certain contents to avoid problems. Just like how companies would censor anti-certain-religion or gender etc, in the West. Censorship is everywhere wherever you look at it. You can't go up to The Guardian news and write your right-w stance.

Considering the hoops foreign companies have to jump through to operate in China, it's about time America did something, but a forced sale seems a bit excessive.

Not a single word mentioning that the "ban" simply removes it from app stores in the US. users could still very easily install and use the app.

5:30 "American politicians don't like it because Israel doesn't" Well this explains it all 🙄

Wouldn't surprise me if TikTok is bought by Oracle, since they already handle their datacenters and algorithm (with heavy oversight from China), so even if the company normally has products like the programming language Java or the VM hypervisor VirtualBox, it would make sense for them seeing as they have all the infrastructure already. Alternatively, if Oracle doesn't buy them, it might be Microsoft, as they might want to compete with Google with their video platform.

Love that intro song!

The thing is America regularly forces tech companies to give the government user data, and often without ever telling the public why, or what data, or how much. If even America does it, you can bet that China does it.

damn! you guys explained it well. keep it up!🎉

So wait, the coubtry who ACTUALLY and PROVENLY check ALL of our communications, is worried that another country can do exactly the same? lol

I may note that while you're allowed to say whatever you want within the United States (as long as you don't use your free speech to commit a crime like defamation) Congress is allowed to regulate what goes in and out of it. After all, to quote Article I Section 8 of the Constitution "Congress shall have the power to lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common defense and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts, and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States; To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes."

shut down tiktok and no more money sh t

Let's hope so

The Chinese should close Tik Tok in the United States at 00:00 on Tuesday, November 5