What Killed Tanking In OW 2?

imo part of the problem is as you say power creep, i think also the transition from 6v6 to 5v5 has made tank be put in an interesting spot, where tank used to check other tanks and due to two of them existing it gave more breathing room to do "fun" pushes, now as tank you either have to play turtle hoping your dps blows up the enemy tank first or basically half forget working together and play doom/jk doing anything in the middle usually ends up you blowing up first

For me, the problem isn’t even the game. It’s the other players. If you’re playing tank on the losing team, you’re getting blamed for it, you’re getting flamed for not switching heroes, and the enemy tank player is stroking his ego all over you in text chat. God help you if you ACTUALLY got diffed that round. Oh and if you talk shit back to them you get chat banned for 14 days

Hot take: if mobility creep was dealt with we would have never needed to buff support or tank.

Hammon actually got out of his mech to t-bag Winston himself.

As a tracer player if they are gonna buff tracer I would much prefer a spread buff than a damage buff because she already kills fast at close range she doesn’t need to kill faster there it would be better to be able to poke a little bit.

What killed playing the role for me is that every time I found something fun or rewarding about a tank they without fail would ruin it in some way and I've honestly just gotten tired of it. Forget other heroes making my life miserable I'm not even enjoying the tanks in a vacuum anymore.

Correction doomfist is the I was a DPS tank

I think the thing that pushed me from tank is the lack of control. If my team is worse we lose, i dont feel too in control of the game

7:15 bro that shuter...

As a super mega bronze master, which doesn't say or mean much, I still have a blast playing Winton, but I've had to make a whole new playstyle to work with it. But when getting a Kiriko, Moira, or Genji, someone who excels at cleaning up low HP kills, really enables the dive and they can help clean up the under powered Tesla Cannon. The changes look good on paper, but Mauga and Bastion are still hard to play against, and swapping off Monke King is better overall, even if I can isolate targets that holding better positions.

"Hey, can I offer you a small tip? Try not to jump as much when playing support and DPS. It makes you easier to hit and you becomes more predictable."

I’m not high rank, mostly gold, but honestly i love playing tank, and it’s all about taking space. If you don’t have space in any circumstance and go 1v5, then you’re throwing the game

No one talks about this but fundamentally the reason why tank feels like shit and probably always be the lack of being able to push something. In overwatch 1 2 tanks had amazing cooldown synergy even if it was only for 2 seconds to go in and fight. If there was an off angle your d.va would take care of it, or your sigma would fight it and give some much needed coverage. Now it's all about 1v1's on dps. In theory that's better for dps being able to 1v1. BUT much of the map design has chokes, highground, or off angles that are incredibly hard to contest. As a tank you cant fight it all and even as dps walking into the enemy teams advantage can be daunting and scary. I wanna off angle as soldier on Meka Base oops hanzo has the angle locked down on bridge. Oh i guess i'll go main oop there's too much spam damage and my tank can't go in. Let's go low ground whoops in a kill box Tanks like D.va and zarya feel amazing when your the one taking care of of angles flankers etc. But now you also have to fight main like a main tank. Contain the enemy tank. Contest high ground. All with honestly not that great of a cooldown to do so. Rein get's off angled easily, winston get's blown up, by dps and lacks many ways of staying in if he has to commit jump onto high ground. No matter how many good cooldowns 1 tank has it will never truly be able to block the space that 2 tanks did. Map control is incredibly hard as 1 tank. I think if 5v5 continues there needs to be a lot of reworks to maps to make them feel like you can actually contest the angles I think samoa is a good maps for 5v5. Smaller, each choke has a lot of different angles but are short enough to rush and push people out. Highground is good but it's not oppressive like Havana, or numbani. While I was playing open que with friends we did 2 tanks 1 dps and 2 supports and its wild how much better most of the maps felt when you had a tank protecting an angle and how much more dynamic team fights got. Being able to actually have map control or true pushes with cooldowns back and forth brought me back to why I loved overwatch 1. But we aren't getting that back so I think one of the easier ways is to look at map design and see how each map could be improved now that there's more limited cooldowns on both sides I would say most of the orignal maps could have slightly lower highground or less empty space to facilitate brawl and dive more effectively. But i'm not sure what everyone else would think about that

I feel you bro tank feels miserable. I only play Doom though so at least I get to die in style

regarding the tracer buff we've already buffed her like that before, and she became gigabroken and had to get nerfed to 5.5 where she is now and now we're putting it back to 6? like?

To throw my two cents in on why tank is having so many issues right now is that Tank is not allowed to make big plays anymore. If you look at the tanks that are good, its the tanks that just ware down the enemy resources until nothing is left. Orisa does that by simply being unkillable, sigma does that by absorbing so much damage for his team, I would also through Rammatra into this as that is how he is played from what I have seen. Rein kinda does this through being a shield bot as mentioned in the video. Try and play Rein normally and you instantly get shut down by supports being supports, damage going to counter you if you had too much fun and the dreaded horse making life hell. Winton hasn't had much time to shine outside of top level organized play as he is fundamentally a play making tank, Winston cant poke out the enemy and grind them down, he doesn't have the sustain to do that, same can be said about ball to an extent. Without an offtank to help take some of the pressure off, this wear down the enemy style will probably be the only style of tank that is allowed to exist unless something breaks and can overpower everything else.

I think they need to give tanks more tools. We need a road hog like rework for the other tanks. Give them more flexibility

how you shatter so fast after charging? i think at some point short or vid flats was mentioning some key switching to make getting out of charge with sheild faster? or its just me?

Maybe I’m a masochist but I started enjoying tank more when ow 2 came out

I just wanna play hog without getting anti naded, discorded, or hacked for what seems like every 10 seconds.