80/20 Training to Race Faster, round 2, with Matt Fitzgerald and Ryan Whited

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I like the lesson that “pain and damage is not the same”. In the taper for a recent 10k I experienced pain in the calves, hip and hamstring during the week but as soon as I started my race it all disappeared.

Salah satu saluran yang menjadi inspirasi saya selama ini. Sudah saya jalani latihan MAF selama 5 bulan. Awal latihan di bulan Juli dapat di pace 10 min/km dengan HR 150bpm. Dan sekarang bulan Desember sudah di pace 7 min/km dengan HR 150bpm. Sangat luar biasa. Salah satu pelajaran dari video di atas, selama kita latihan MAF sangat sedikit cidera. Bersabar dan konsisten adalah kuncinya. Terimakasih salam dari Indonesia 🇮🇩

I really like Matt’s comment of”Everything is figureoutable”. It’s so true. When we get away from the emotional state we are in, things can get better. 55:40 Great episode. So many wonderful nuggets. Pain is a signal. It doesn’t have to be a stop sign.

I agree that a big reason to go faster is to get done sooner.

First of all guys, great interview. I am currently reading 80/20, but I’d been lagging so this video has inspired me to get back to it. Like so much of Floris’ content, it resonates with me. I was told in my 40’s that I had osteoarthritis and much of the advice was to give up any ballistic exercises yet somehow remain fit. It never made sense. Yes there was pain but there was never any useful information such as “how advanced the arthritis was”. Anyway retired at 55 and started running again. Yes there was pain but then the benefits came. Most of my pain got better during exercise. I’m 59 now and started distance running 2 years ago and recently completed first marathon. Trusting yourself is so important.

I enjoyed Matt elaborating on the dance we do with our pain or discomfort and how no one is more suited to navigate this dance than the person experiencing it.

Two for me . Zone 3 is not a grey zone its part of the 20 percent high intensity work outs . The Pendulum between Pain and injury is a great visualization to stay in the middle 👍

The idea of reframing/renaming "my injured knee" to "my healing knee". I think this can be very useful to someone like me who sometimes speaks in slightly pessimistic way

Fascinating discussion - thank you! Reminds me of a few years ago when I did the Marine Corps Marathon with a nagging sore hip. After I finished the race the pain was mysteriously gone - like the marathon cured my hip pain.

Hey Floris, I won't get tired of thanking you and the work you do. Thanks for these interviews! This one was really interesting but I was really looking forward to hearing Matt's opinion about MAF method and base building so very glad you asked that. I am currently in the base building phase with mostly MAF running but I will be incorporating some strides here and there in a few weeks. Let's see how this goes :)

Hi Floris. Big fan of the channel and this might be my favourite episode yet. I work in health care and every day I see the way the mind influences pain. Such an important message you guys have helped share.

My favourite takeaway and lesson was the confirmation and/or explanation why almost every race, the days before the race I have "pain" in a part of my body that is gone at the start. It is even the other way around: when I don't feel some sort of pain or discomfort in the days before a race, I usually have a bad race, so experiencing that "pain" feels like some sort of comfort, I even miss it when it is not there. It is part of my (mental) preparation.

"They day you don't want to come in, is the day you need to come in"

What a great convo, especially the part about pain. Recently my husband and I drove three hours to do a half marathon in San Jose and the night before the race, while checking in our hotel, my left foot started hurting out of nowhere. The pain was so excruciating that it was crippling me minute by minute. I could barely walk. I had to hold onto my husband to get to our room and almost had to request for a wheelchair. My husband almost convinced me to not run the following day, but we drove so far and i had been waiting to do this race, so I told him I wanted to sleep on it and pray for a miracle. I rubbed some Bio Freeze on it and slept. The next morning, I was good as new. I was nervous that morning at the starting line but I experienced zero pain during the entire race. It's still mind boggling to me.

Thank your Floris for this episode. I think it is essential to know as we enter the new year. My favorite part for sure was the NO-cebo effect. I liked how your guest empathized, “it’s not your hurting knee, rather your healing knee.” Just changing the wording can have a positive effect. LOVE IT!

The Running Clinic did an amazing educational job about injuries management. There is this protocol call PEACE & LOVE : Protect, Elevate, Avoid anti-inflammatory, Compression, Education and after this, back at work with: Load, Optimism, Vascularisation, Exercise. Totally in agreement with your talk, back by science.

Great episode Floris! Really interesting. 2 takeaways for me: pain and injury aren't necessarily the same, and preparing for difficult races there is a focus on mental toughness that's really needed to succeed and solve that by practice being in those challenging situations.

My favorite lesson is how people tend to think more than what they are in training. I started May 1 at 50. I was slow and still am. My overall mile is down about four minutes, and I can keep a pace I had to run at when starting. I keep the most dangerous thing in check - my ego. I still work primarily on a treadmill, walk more than run and look where I have come from moreso than where I am going. I have one 5k down. I want to run more. Thanks as always, Floris. Love your content.

Thanks Floris for this podcast, listening to it just as I finished at long 20km easy run and I can relate to some sections relating to pain. I enjoyed the part about changing the language of how we talk about ourselves. Getting over past traumas will help us move forward.